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In reply to the discussion: I do not own a dog... [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)53. Why am I not surprised?
You do know that dogs also pant when they have experienced trauma (like extreme cold) or are in pain? No...I'll bet you don't know that, either. Good grief. I "don't buy" a single thing you have had to say on this topic. Not one thing.
The rumor is, the dog ran away. If true, I can't blame him.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2012/02/16/romney_s_dog_seamus_did_he_run_away_to_canada_.html
Paging Gail Collins: the shameful tale of Seamus, Mitt Romneys Irish setterwhom the candidate stuck in a crate and strapped to the roof of his car on a 12 hour ride to Canadamay have ended with a stroke of poetic justice. According to a piece on Politicker yesterday, Romneys sons told reporters in an off-record conversation that the dog ran away when the family got to Ontario. Such a revelation, if true, gives the lie to Romneys now nearly five-year-old claim that Seamus liked riding on top of the station wagon. (He scrambled up there every time we went on trips, the governor insisted. He got it all by himself and enjoyed it. To which we say: That is either one small station wagon or one very athletic dog).
Others have already disputed the idea that Seamus appreciated his wind-blown tours atop the family car. The 2007 Globe story describing the 1983 event recounted how Romneys son at one point saw a brown liquid dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter whod been riding on the roof in the wind for hours. That Seamus suffered from diarrhea during the trip was taken as evidence that he and his owner disagreed about the wisdom of the travel arrangement. Earlier this week, an anti-Romney protest was held outside the Westminster dog show. And, in a Dan Savage-like move, Google users recently conspired to transform Romneys name into a verb meaning to defecate in fear.
Is that fair, though? Do we know that Seamus defecated because he was afraid? We called a veterinarian and asked if it were possible that the dog just pooped because it needed to, without all the Sturm and Drang. Dr. Rawstrom of the MacArthur Animal Hospital in D.C. set us straight. Dogs try to be clean, hygienic animals, she said. They prefer clean environments; thats why one principle of crate training is to give them a space large enough to move around in but small enough that they dont want to defecate inside. Most housetrained (and healthy) dogs, she continued, will not poop on themselves. While Seamus could have gone out of desperation rather than fear, his runny stool indicates that he was experiencing high levels of stress. So, no, its not likely that the Irish setter was merely and unproblematically expressing his animal nature.
All this speculation may be moot, however, if Seamus voted with his feet and fled the premises. Mitts wife Ann has reassured everyone that the dog lived to a ripe old age, basking in the affection of a large family. We like to think he spent his golden years in Canada, an outlaw, never setting foot in or on or even near an automobile again.
Others have already disputed the idea that Seamus appreciated his wind-blown tours atop the family car. The 2007 Globe story describing the 1983 event recounted how Romneys son at one point saw a brown liquid dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter whod been riding on the roof in the wind for hours. That Seamus suffered from diarrhea during the trip was taken as evidence that he and his owner disagreed about the wisdom of the travel arrangement. Earlier this week, an anti-Romney protest was held outside the Westminster dog show. And, in a Dan Savage-like move, Google users recently conspired to transform Romneys name into a verb meaning to defecate in fear.
Is that fair, though? Do we know that Seamus defecated because he was afraid? We called a veterinarian and asked if it were possible that the dog just pooped because it needed to, without all the Sturm and Drang. Dr. Rawstrom of the MacArthur Animal Hospital in D.C. set us straight. Dogs try to be clean, hygienic animals, she said. They prefer clean environments; thats why one principle of crate training is to give them a space large enough to move around in but small enough that they dont want to defecate inside. Most housetrained (and healthy) dogs, she continued, will not poop on themselves. While Seamus could have gone out of desperation rather than fear, his runny stool indicates that he was experiencing high levels of stress. So, no, its not likely that the Irish setter was merely and unproblematically expressing his animal nature.
All this speculation may be moot, however, if Seamus voted with his feet and fled the premises. Mitts wife Ann has reassured everyone that the dog lived to a ripe old age, basking in the affection of a large family. We like to think he spent his golden years in Canada, an outlaw, never setting foot in or on or even near an automobile again.
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and to initially be PROUD of his actions and think it portrayed him in a masterful light!
Arugula Latte
Mar 2012
#3
This single incident resonates with everybody. It represents everything that is wrong with Romney.
yardwork
Mar 2012
#4
Don't forget the wife. What woman would allow her husband to do this unless she was
Booster
Mar 2012
#30
Dog inside the car vs strapped on top in a crate - you don't see a difference?
nadine_mn
Mar 2012
#70
Imagine that scene of the Roomneys cruising down the highway with dog shit running down the winows
Kyad06
Mar 2012
#15
Don't forget--the poor dog crapped himself in fear, and RMoney's "solution" was to blast the dog's
MADem
Mar 2012
#18
Keep revealing yourself--calling other people "clearly psychotic" says much about you.
MADem
Mar 2012
#59
But that isn't what I said--see, you can't even be forthright in defending yourself.
MADem
Mar 2012
#88
No, as your quotation indicates, the original source was in the Boston Globe story.
Jim Lane
Mar 2012
#35
Bummer. I had to do without a dog for two years a while back - the house seemed "empty".
HopeHoops
Mar 2012
#20
How does your sister feel about crating a dog on top of a car at 70 mph?
aint_no_life_nowhere
Mar 2012
#34