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WeekendWarrior

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122. And where in there does he say

Sun Jan 19, 2014, 12:23 PM

Jan 2014

there's enough evidence to prosecute?

By the way, even if he did say it—and I'm not seeing it—why should we believe a judge over a group of experts who studied the case and said the allegations were baseless?

It seems to me you simply want to believe Allen did something heinous, so you're looking for anything that might support that belief. Like a bad cop or prosecutor or politician.

The truth is, this was already handled by the authorities, the experts and the courts, and Allen was cleared. I believe in the dictum "Innocent until proven guilty."

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Woody Allen may well be a despicable creep and pedophile. He's still a great artist [View all] cali Jan 2014 OP

Regardless... I can't watch any of his stuff Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #1

I can watch his stuff as long as he's not in any of it. pnwmom Jan 2014 #9

Me, too. I'm amazed they gave him that award. I'm not surprised he didn't show. valerief Jan 2014 #80

Yep. But his work will always be tainted. redqueen Jan 2014 #2

I disagree. In 25 years, he'll be dead. His movies will still be watched. cali Jan 2014 #3

I never said people will stop watching his films. redqueen Jan 2014 #5

And he'll still be a loathesome creep and child molester theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #57

Leni Riefenstahl was a great artist, too. Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #4

lol. nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #10

double lol DontTreadOnMe Jan 2014 #126

She was a great artist. Her work is still studied in film school and film appreciation classes. kelly1mm Jan 2014 #28

Ha! MADem Jan 2014 #31

she is probably still the best female director ever dsc Jan 2014 #88

David Lynch? The guy's a bit of a weirdo, but I've never heard of him doing anything especially nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #98

Everybody has to draw their own line - I do it, you do it, we all do it, consciously or not. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #97

He's a piece of shit SaltyBro Jan 2014 #6

I believe his movies, their style, are an acquired taste... Tikki Jan 2014 #7

I have never acquired a taste for his works either. Skidmore Jan 2014 #114

I agree deutsey Jan 2014 #8

They're just movies. Nothing more. randome Jan 2014 #11

they're just sculptures, nothing more. They're just poems, nothing more. they're just paintings cali Jan 2014 #13

Of the hundreds of thousands of great works of art in the world... randome Jan 2014 #14

sure, but you're one person. As far as the world of film making goes, Allen is a cali Jan 2014 #15

Holy cow, get a grip. tabasco Jan 2014 #83

K&R. He is a brilliant artist quinnox Jan 2014 #12

Over-rated schlock. GeorgeGist Jan 2014 #16

Agreed LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #49

Crimes & Misdemeanors? Hannah and her Sisters? Brilliant stuff, LeftinOH Jan 2014 #119

So, to paraphrase LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #121

Some would say the same about Roman Polanski. nt justiceischeap Jan 2014 #17

I have. Frequently. WillowTree Jan 2014 #78

I would. Chinatown is one of the best American pictures ever. El_Johns Jan 2014 #94

He's a really crappy actor. stopbush Jan 2014 #18

Gee when you are brave enough to direct your own films HangOnKids Jan 2014 #27

So nobody is allowed to have an opinion about anything that isn't their metier? stopbush Jan 2014 #112

Yip Yip Yip HangOnKids Jan 2014 #115

good director and one of the BEST SCREENWRITERS EVER JCMach1 Jan 2014 #19

If he's a pedophile, I don't care about his artistry. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #20

If lame54 Jan 2014 #23

Yes, if. Gormy Cuss Jan 2014 #41

He's dead to me. Throd Jan 2014 #21

Cali! Nice to see you! BainsBane Jan 2014 #22

thank you. nice of you to say. cali Jan 2014 #32

I don't see rewarding pedophiles with awards as a good thing. boston bean Jan 2014 #24

so deport him. Oh, can't. librechik Jan 2014 #25

He was just the victim of one pissed off former lover. CBGLuthier Jan 2014 #26

He was a young girl's father, then he had sex with her. He did that all by himself. Squinch Jan 2014 #69

Andre Previn is Soon Yi Previn's father. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #113

I don't think Mia fathered any children Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #74

Tough, I thought Blue Jasmine was poor, poor, poor, poor, poor NoOneMan Jan 2014 #29

Blue Jasmine was brilliant WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #52

No, it really wasn't NoOneMan Jan 2014 #56

Total agree with you NoOneMan. lady lib Jan 2014 #72

I always say, to each his own WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #73

Cardinal Law is said to be a good conversationalist....I don't wanna talk to him, though. MADem Jan 2014 #30

this isn't about what you personally think of Allen cali Jan 2014 #33

Well, I addressed that whole "impact on the field" thing in the body of my post. MADem Jan 2014 #39

no, you really didn't. a comment with your personal opinion of the awards cali Jan 2014 #43

Look, everyone here is expressing "opinion" -- even you. And no one's, not even yours, not even MADem Jan 2014 #63

THAT whole movie had a very high creep factor. Squinch Jan 2014 #71

And the singer of that tune got the same award they just gave "Woody!" (Apt name, I suppose, the MADem Jan 2014 #79

This may be the thing Chevalier is most remembered for... dorkzilla Jan 2014 #105

Haven't seen that in over a half century--not exaggerating, either! nt MADem Jan 2014 #108

Why would anyone claim that Woody Allen is a pedophile? Vattel Jan 2014 #34

that does seem strange quinnox Jan 2014 #37

Because Mia Farrow's daughter (not Soon-yi Previn, another one) says he abused her. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #40

He abused us all maindawg Jan 2014 #76

I didn't know that. I hope it is not true. Vattel Jan 2014 #82

If you're a middle-aged man, then I'd say it's borderline. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #99

People don't like him Dorian Gray Jan 2014 #35

I am not a fan of his body of work. Xyzse Jan 2014 #36

I never liked his movies to begin with get the red out Jan 2014 #38

The obvious rejoinder is "he may be a great artist, but he's still a despicable creep". Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #42

Woody Allen lost me with Manhattan. MineralMan Jan 2014 #44

I'm still amused by Ronan Farrow's Tweet from last June. Jenoch Jan 2014 #45

DAMN! redqueen Jan 2014 #59

Agreed. I don't know about the creep/pedophile part. But, he is a great artist. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #46

And yet, 'Lolita' is considered a great work of fiction. closeupready Jan 2014 #47

Hello? FICTION. Plus, great literature, unlike pap, is more than a story-line. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #55

You miss the point. closeupready Jan 2014 #62

Lolita was a cautionary tale--it wasn't a "How To" book or film. MADem Jan 2014 #65

And IIRC, Humbert in Nabokov's mind was more "evil rapist" than "dashing anti-hero." nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #102

And he never played football! LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #48

But he practices a lot when he is by himself underpants Jan 2014 #53

There's no proof he's a pedophile WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #50

Google. The JUDGE said there was enough to prosecute. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #60

It was the PROSECUTOR who said it WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #75

I never believed the charges vankuria Jan 2014 #86

Actually, I believe the Sinatra thing WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #123

I thought Ronan looks like Mia Farrow vankuria Jan 2014 #128

Judge Elliott Wilk, citing the report from the Yale-New Haven Hospital... countryjake Jan 2014 #110

And where in there does he say WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #122

This pretty much sums up all the evidence WeekendWarrior Jan 2014 #125

Actually, I think the -judge- said the opposite. Which is why he never got prosecuted. El_Johns Jan 2014 #95

I agree underpants Jan 2014 #51

From the Roman Polanski School of Condoning Pedophilia. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #54

Yes a great artist. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #58

Funny how someone can be cruel to dogs and be scorned...but being a molestor is ok.. HipChick Jan 2014 #61

Count me out--I don't think his conduct was "OK." I think he's a sick jerk. nt MADem Jan 2014 #66

Child, I read this thread and thought the EXACT same thing!!!!!! Number23 Jan 2014 #84

Exactly... HipChick Jan 2014 #85

Is there an overlap of those who hold Vick to one standard and Allen to another? LanternWaste Jan 2014 #116

That only works if you show your proof.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #91

Both should be scorned for their actions. Neither's talent should be dismissed because of them. nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #104

As his generation, more or less, HockeyMom Jan 2014 #64

I disliked Amadeus for the reason that I can separate the art from the artist elias7 Jan 2014 #67

There really isn't a rule against assholes being talented eridani Jan 2014 #68

+1 Atman Jan 2014 #92

As opposed to the Head in the Sand Platoon? LanternWaste Jan 2014 #118

The abberation is the norm? Make shit up much? Atman Jan 2014 #120

He's a pedophile, so he's a shitty artist. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #70

Naaaah. He's a pedophile...AND he's a shitty artist! MADem Jan 2014 #81

Good for him. I'll still pass on all his "great art". WillowTree Jan 2014 #77

I love his movies...especially the older ones. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #87

There are only two of his films I enjoyed: Brother Buzz Jan 2014 #89

I think pretentious is the word you're looking for. Though I enjoyed Annie Hall. But I don't El_Johns Jan 2014 #96

You probably prefer Hannah and her Sisters...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #129

And then there is Phil Specter. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #90

I can't stand the guy. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #93

The Marquis de Sade hated state tyranny and was against the death penalty Rex Jan 2014 #100

I haven't read Marquis de Sade in donkey's years FatBuddy Jan 2014 #106

** alledged Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #101

No trials or convictions nilesobek Jan 2014 #103

*BLECH!*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! me b zola Jan 2014 #107

I'll second that BLECH!!!! countryjake Jan 2014 #111

I agree that an artist's life is totally separate from their work. Waiting For Everyman Jan 2014 #109

So was Michael Jackson KamaAina Jan 2014 #117

Thanks Boom Sound 416 Jan 2014 #124

I used to love his work but after he started dating the girl who was his "daughter" in his family .. Botany Jan 2014 #127