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In reply to the discussion: Thank You Bernie Sanders: 'The Devil Will Be In The Details' .. 'I Do Not Agree With The President' [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)I opposed what back then was called by its proper name, but Dems at least, 'spying on the American people' and so did you. And if those words had been used back then, you and I would have opposed it as fiercely as some of us are still doing now.
Collecting meta data on every single American IS 'actual spying'. As Shakespeare said: A rose is a rose, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet'.
And this is where you are veering off from the position you took during the Bush years which I completely agreed with.
They are still spying on the American people.
They are violating our 4th Amendment rights.
They passed an egregious Amendment to cover and protect the Bush/Cheney from the real threat of being impeached for doing exactly what they have now made legal. That Amendment was a disgrace and it wasn't just Republicans who passed it, DEmocrats helped. YOU were outraged. Now you are using 'the law' to try to tell us that what is now going is 'legal' it seems to me. It isn't. No Corporate law trumps the Constitution.
Obama, after promising not to vote for it, did a complete turnaround and did so. I remember that, it was a bad sign to those of us who supported him. But we let it go hoping he would fix it once elected.
Bottom line, nothing has changed regarding our government violating our Constitutional Rights.
There is no such thing as a 'mass warrant' on over 300 million people. What is their probable cause, what am I, a customer of one of the telecoms passing MY data over to government agencies, accused of? I asked to see the warrant and the probably cause that caused my provider to turn over my data for 'storage'. They denied it was happening. Why? If they were doing something legal they would have shown me how my data came to be in the hands of Private Security Corporate Spies.