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In reply to the discussion: Obama says marijuana ‘no more dangerous than alcohol’ [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)55. Unfortunately, the U.S. does not have “retroactive ameliorative relief”
We are one of 22 nations that doesn't offer relief from sentencing if a law changes.
http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/01/02/no-relief-convicted
In the past 25 years, 210,000 marijuana-related arrests have been made in the state of Colorado alone. Of that number, more than 50,000 took place between 2006 and 2010. So now that Colorado has officially legalized the commercial sale and consumption of marijuana, how many of those people arrested for previous weed crimes will be let out of prison? Or, if theyve already served their time, how many will have their marijuana crimes expunged from their records, making it easier to get a job?
The answer: Zero on all counts.
The United States is one of only 22 countries that doesnt guarantee retroactive ameliorative relief in sentencing, says Amanda Solter, Project Director of Human Rights and Criminal Sentencing Reform Project for the University of San Francisco School of Law. The only other countries that do this are places like Myanmar, Oman, Pakistan, South Sudan, and a handful of countries in the Caribbean. Even Russia provides this right.
Though post-conviction relief varies from state-to-state in the U.S., amelioration typically needs to be explicitly specified by lawmakers for it to take effect. In a political system paralyzed by the need of candidates to appear tough on crime, this rarely happens. The Fair Sentencing Act, for instance, which passed the U.S. Congress in 2010, eases penalties for the personal possession of crack cocaine. However, even though this law was explicitly crafted to right the wrong of absurdly high sentences for crack possession in comparison with other drugs, lawmakers made no effort to ease the sentences of those already convicted.
In the past 25 years, 210,000 marijuana-related arrests have been made in the state of Colorado alone. Of that number, more than 50,000 took place between 2006 and 2010. So now that Colorado has officially legalized the commercial sale and consumption of marijuana, how many of those people arrested for previous weed crimes will be let out of prison? Or, if theyve already served their time, how many will have their marijuana crimes expunged from their records, making it easier to get a job?
The answer: Zero on all counts.
The United States is one of only 22 countries that doesnt guarantee retroactive ameliorative relief in sentencing, says Amanda Solter, Project Director of Human Rights and Criminal Sentencing Reform Project for the University of San Francisco School of Law. The only other countries that do this are places like Myanmar, Oman, Pakistan, South Sudan, and a handful of countries in the Caribbean. Even Russia provides this right.
Though post-conviction relief varies from state-to-state in the U.S., amelioration typically needs to be explicitly specified by lawmakers for it to take effect. In a political system paralyzed by the need of candidates to appear tough on crime, this rarely happens. The Fair Sentencing Act, for instance, which passed the U.S. Congress in 2010, eases penalties for the personal possession of crack cocaine. However, even though this law was explicitly crafted to right the wrong of absurdly high sentences for crack possession in comparison with other drugs, lawmakers made no effort to ease the sentences of those already convicted.
However, I would love to see blanket amnesty for those conviction of possession charges. The bulk of arrests are for simple possession.
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Right the kids would be fetter off trying alcohol, passing out and being passed around like
Vincardog
Jan 2014
#115
Perhaps is has something to do with the fact that in Colorado the state took in
SomethingFishy
Jan 2014
#229
The main problem with smoking pot is the mechanical damage to lungs from smoke of any kind
tavalon
Jan 2014
#174
I have peripheral neuropathy from a rare auto-immune neuromuscular disease
NightWatcher
Jan 2014
#10
I had the smallest dose (10mg) and it relaxed my muscles similar to a Flexoril
NightWatcher
Jan 2014
#140
A marijuana cigarette has the paper involved .. whereby being carcinogenic .. I would think.
YOHABLO
Jan 2014
#129
No I am just saying that you made a statement of fact. What study has been done to prove your "fact"
Vincardog
Jan 2014
#144
I still can't believe the wrong turn we took in the early 80's. One day I'm walking down the street
brewens
Jan 2014
#20
Has he told all the US attorneys? The US attorneys are all over the map. You have some who
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#74
Its wishy washy and over cautious, but a big leap forward from the usual rhetoric.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2014
#12
one of the reasons why i love NY. get busted walking down the street with up to an ounce; $50
dionysus
Jan 2014
#63
Just like with gay marriage - when the whole country is cool with it, he "leads."
polichick
Jan 2014
#16
Yeah, he took office in 2009. The idiotic war on drugs would've ended THEN...
polichick
Jan 2014
#71
No - I think a silly statement five years later does not address the issue...
polichick
Jan 2014
#104
No. I provided facts long ago. You dismissed them and took another shot at Obama...
Drunken Irishman
Jan 2014
#69
Right. That in 2012, the whole country supported marriage equality...
Drunken Irishman
Jan 2014
#108
Backtrack? Heck that was moving the goalposts from the football field to the swimming pool.
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#112
You kind of have to look at the polling among the 25-45 yr olds.. And support is overwhelming.
glowing
Jan 2014
#96
Sure is - "the sad" is a "leader" who waits to "snatch the issue" rather than...
polichick
Jan 2014
#100
Putting a weed in your mouth and setting it on fire is hardly the only way to feel good.
randome
Jan 2014
#145
Surely you know that the only reasonable response to what you just said is "duh"?
Schema Thing
Jan 2014
#146
The administration deserves credit for the steps it has taken on criminal justice reform.
Comrade Grumpy
Jan 2014
#53
Go on tilting at windmills. Let me know when Obama dumps Holder to free the weed.
Comrade Grumpy
Jan 2014
#232
This is what worries me. They are going to promise to do lots of things. The question is
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#70
This is pretty big because it legitimizes the issue at the highest level of our nation.
CFLDem
Jan 2014
#42
it would be more helpful if he would say it is time to reschedule marijuana so
liberal_at_heart
Jan 2014
#56
Good. A competent politician doesn't pick fights that they will lose.
SolutionisSolidarity
Jan 2014
#132
I would be dissatisfied with "competent politician" as an epitaph. n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Jan 2014
#133
Fortunately for all of us, Obama is in no danger of having that as his epitaph.
Schema Thing
Jan 2014
#147
I didn't expect any different from "We are the change we've been waiting for"
Hippo_Tron
Jan 2014
#210
People are complaining, but for a sitting POTUS to say this, is huge.
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2014
#153
The most sensible statement ever made by a sitting president on the subject.
tritsofme
Jan 2014
#156
And with that, the moon turned black as sackcloth, rivers ran red with blood, & the sky fell ..twice
Warren DeMontague
Jan 2014
#162