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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders is and continues to be critical of President Obama [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)118. Nonsense that constituencies need to change.
Last edited Sun Jan 19, 2014, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)
The incessant repetition by the propaganda brigade of what you just wrote *still* does not make it true.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4357158
As you already know but persist in ignoring, polls consistently and repeatedly show that that the electorate is far more in agreement with Bernie Sanders on the major issues than the corporate candidates we are offered, over and over again. Across party lines, voters favor protecting SS and Medicare, they despise austerity, they want to curb the surveillance state, they want to invest in schools and infrastructure, and they want to cut military spending.
And the proof of the lie is that candidates pivot LEFTWARD every single election season to win voters. They lie and say that they will support a public option, or protect Social Security, or rein in the NSA, because they know that is what voters want to hear. But as soon as the election is over, it's back to the business of the one percent.
The Tea Party is bankrolled by big business. So is the Third Way. The Third Way was never a grass roots phenomenon. It is a deliberate infiltration of the Democratic Party, bankrolled by corporate interests.
We have a systemic problem of corporate money driving policy in both parties now. That is what happens when corporations buy elections. And ABSURD posts like the one you just made are what happens when corporations buy the media.
As you already know but persist in ignoring, polls consistently and repeatedly show that that the electorate is far more in agreement with Bernie Sanders on the major issues than the corporate candidates we are offered, over and over again. Across party lines, voters favor protecting SS and Medicare, they despise austerity, they want to curb the surveillance state, they want to invest in schools and infrastructure, and they want to cut military spending.
And the proof of the lie is that candidates pivot LEFTWARD every single election season to win voters. They lie and say that they will support a public option, or protect Social Security, or rein in the NSA, because they know that is what voters want to hear. But as soon as the election is over, it's back to the business of the one percent.
The Tea Party is bankrolled by big business. So is the Third Way. The Third Way was never a grass roots phenomenon. It is a deliberate infiltration of the Democratic Party, bankrolled by corporate interests.
We have a systemic problem of corporate money driving policy in both parties now. That is what happens when corporations buy elections. And ABSURD posts like the one you just made are what happens when corporations buy the media.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4357824
Barack Obama was swept into office in a landslide in 2008 after a campaign trumpeting promises to be a champion for progressive policies and the 99 percent. He promised to protect Social Security, put on his "walking shoes" for labor, rein in the surveillance state, insist on a public option, close GITMO, hold banks accountable, increase transparency, etc., etc., etc.
We all know what happened once he got into office.
And they will try it again in 2016...because seeking votes requires it. They will pivot leftward. Hell, they are already trying to pivot leftward for the midterms. We already have the ABSURD spectacle of a President claiming he wants to focus on "income inequality" while simultaneously pushing the most predatory, secretive, 99-percent-assaulting "free trade" agreement in history.
Don't blame voters who do the best they can, given a system that has been deliberately and fundamentally corrupted to make it almost impossible for candidates not backed by dirty corporate money to compete.
Barack Obama was swept into office in a landslide in 2008 after a campaign trumpeting promises to be a champion for progressive policies and the 99 percent. He promised to protect Social Security, put on his "walking shoes" for labor, rein in the surveillance state, insist on a public option, close GITMO, hold banks accountable, increase transparency, etc., etc., etc.
We all know what happened once he got into office.
And they will try it again in 2016...because seeking votes requires it. They will pivot leftward. Hell, they are already trying to pivot leftward for the midterms. We already have the ABSURD spectacle of a President claiming he wants to focus on "income inequality" while simultaneously pushing the most predatory, secretive, 99-percent-assaulting "free trade" agreement in history.
Don't blame voters who do the best they can, given a system that has been deliberately and fundamentally corrupted to make it almost impossible for candidates not backed by dirty corporate money to compete.
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I hope he runs for President in 2016 - to offer an alternative to the bipartisan consensus on
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#1
Given that almost everybody agrees with Sen. Sanders on basic economic issues - even many rank and
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#35
Explain how corporate money 'allows' us to 'ignore reality'. What reality? We are not ignoring
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#78
wmws is correct and in case you haven't noticed, the ThirdWay corporate garbage that has
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#140
Counting votes means nothing if both candidates are corporate-bought.
woo me with science
Jan 2014
#113
Because they are given no choice. See Buono in NJ, deserted by her own party
sabrina 1
Jan 2014
#163
The billionaire purchased austerity propaganda policy mill '3rd Way' is a product
Dragonfli
Jan 2014
#112
Lol. long before Obama became President, he was corporate friendly in a way that Sanders
cali
Jan 2014
#11
bzzzt. yet another fail. but I am delighted to watch your, er, antics. Most amusing.
cali
Jan 2014
#12
"Trying to use Bernie to burnish President Obama's liberal credentials is dishonest. "
Kolesar
Jan 2014
#6
Why? All I'm doing is setting the record straight. Yes, Bernie supports the President
cali
Jan 2014
#21
no, the president's pro corporate policies are the problem- not bernie's opposition to them
cali
Jan 2014
#28
You are missing Joe's point. I love Bernie and he phrases things better than anyone on income
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#53
Precisely! Any anonymous internet schmuck can piss and moan about what they perceive ...
11 Bravo
Jan 2014
#122
So..sometimes he is critical where waranted...and sometimes he is supportive where it is warranted
SunsetDreams
Jan 2014
#38
Sen. Sanders has been both supportive and critical of President Obama and this seems fines to me.
underthematrix
Jan 2014
#48
All who disagree with Obama on policy are haters who do so on racist grounds
Fumesucker
Jan 2014
#80
Evidently there are some here who believe six impossible things before breakfast
Fumesucker
Jan 2014
#105
Bernie continues to represent the best interests of the american people, Obama doesn't always
on point
Jan 2014
#71
I would hope Senator Sanders would not be critical of President Obama unless promoting/
indepat
Jan 2014
#104
Your divisive propaganda was once again thoroughly debunked by ProSense and others.
great white snark
Jan 2014
#119
That subthread between Prosense, JoePhilly and 1SBM pretty much demolished this OP
Number23
Jan 2014
#128
you don't understand politics and how things work in the real world. But then again a comforting
Douglas Carpenter
Jan 2014
#159
In a democracy, it is the peoples' responsibility to hold public servants accountable.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jan 2014
#162