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George II

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62. Straw man argument? Please explain.

Sun Jan 19, 2014, 08:24 PM

Jan 2014

I have NO idea what you're talking about, nor do I understand how you can construe any of what I've said a "straw man" argument.

I guess I'm just not smart enough to decipher some of what's been said here today. That's what I get for living in the real world.

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Here's the map forced-birth American Taliban don't want you to see... [View all] Triana Jan 2014 OP

we're number one!! niyad Jan 2014 #1

The best health care system in the world! Auntie Bush Jan 2014 #6

... Soylent Brice Jan 2014 #78

Money is the most important thing in America. Rex Jan 2014 #2

It's not just us! We're in good company. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #3

Hey, If it's good enough for Tonga... nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2014 #4

FREEDOM! FREEDOM! USA USA USA!!! tblue Jan 2014 #5

What a shame. CFLDem Jan 2014 #7

Hey, if you want to live somewhere that values women and motherhood... Deep13 Jan 2014 #8

So much for caring for the unborn. A mother on paid ML is one with less stress Fla Dem Jan 2014 #9

They only care about the unborn. Thav Jan 2014 #102

Butbutbut Dirty Socialist Jan 2014 #10

Most Americans have no clue that SheilaT Jan 2014 #11

Hmmmm......I don't remember it that way in my case llmart Jan 2014 #25

It was the telephone company, Ma Bell. SheilaT Jan 2014 #71

We are so awesum! City Lights Jan 2014 #12

There's Your . . FairWinds Jan 2014 #13

Shameful. I'm using the term "forced birth" to describe anti-abortionists gtar100 Jan 2014 #14

anti-choice, woman-hating, pro-forced birthers is my short name for them (have a few more, but niyad Jan 2014 #83

It's a little bit like this map the Ts don't want you to see: Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #15

And we were the first country to tell the world to go metric. n/t. airplaneman Jan 2014 #23

Wasn't it France? Them having invented the system and all? 2ndAmForComputers Jan 2014 #33

Metric: France. Decimalization: Americans. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #95

Amazing how all the maps look alike father founding Jan 2014 #88

Part of the problem is that adieu Jan 2014 #16

"they want to make government irrelevant so that companies can do whatever they want . . ." Triana Jan 2014 #30

Brilliant. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #54

Why... AlbertCat Jan 2014 #17

"American Taliban"? A bit of an extreme analogy, don't you think? George II Jan 2014 #18

Not at all. It's actually quite accurate. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #19

Their gun fetish is actually their desire to someday use their guns to kill us "unbelievers." alfredo Jan 2014 #26

What do all of those things have to do with lack of paid maternal leave? George II Jan 2014 #27

they'd like to force women to have babies, then hobble their careers for doing so. bettyellen Jan 2014 #36

And force them to drink gallons of oil, too? (oil drilling was one of things in your "list") George II Jan 2014 #38

not my list. and I think the oil didn't belong on it- but DRINK OIL? WHO SAID THIS? bettyellen Jan 2014 #41

correct....sorry, it was further up the chain. George II Jan 2014 #44

It's of a piece, all those things reflect their ultra conservative values and have a very bettyellen Jan 2014 #47

The OP was about paid maternity leave and ONLY paid maternity leave! On that issue......... George II Jan 2014 #49

It's not uncommon for men to be so selfishly unconcerned about reproductive rights. bettyellen Jan 2014 #51

But, yet once again - you're drifting off topic. George II Jan 2014 #53

it's interesting you think it is a narrow topic- anyone who is familiar with the oppression of women bettyellen Jan 2014 #65

Say what you will, the ONLY thing that the OP shows is that the US is one of a few countries... George II Jan 2014 #67

Well, thanks for your impassioned defense of American RW extremists, LOL. bettyellen Jan 2014 #70

I find your accusation of me defending American RW extremists and being ignorant of........ George II Jan 2014 #85

you are aware, of course, that there is nothing in the tos that requires one to stay "on the narrow niyad Jan 2014 #82

Yes, I am aware of that, but it's unseemly especially when the poster who has gone off topic... George II Jan 2014 #84

as I said, keep it up. we all need the laughs. remdi85 niyad Jan 2014 #86

But after a while it ceases to be funny. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #99

Agreed. I was able to follow along with the discussion. Apparently somebody else wasn't. Can't gtar100 Jan 2014 #93

thank you, it isn't often people pretend to completely misunderstand the context of an oft used bettyellen Jan 2014 #104

They're destructive policies supported by religious conservatives? Bradical79 Jan 2014 #64

The GOP nominated one in 2012: Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #20

It's a pretty apt description of our country. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #21

Nope. n/t KarenS Jan 2014 #22

I agree, but we are in the minority here on that issue. nt 7962 Jan 2014 #32

It's pretty repulsive that people around here would equate a terrorist state with.... George II Jan 2014 #35

Except the OP didn't do that dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #39

NOTHING was "discussed" in the OP - it was a single graphic with no text other than the subject line George II Jan 2014 #42

perhaps you need to read up on what we call "the american taliban" s the OP was bettyellen Jan 2014 #43

Perhaps, but going back to my first post on the subject, I think that reference is extreme. George II Jan 2014 #46

yeah, the Taliban isn't imprisoning women or forcing dead women to incubate babies�. or bettyellen Jan 2014 #48

Yet AGAIN - WHERE are all of those things mentioned in the OP? Sheesh! George II Jan 2014 #50

They don't need to be spelled out to anyone who has advocated for womens' rights. We are quite bettyellen Jan 2014 #66

Oh, I see.... George II Jan 2014 #68

It's not a game. If you don't understand why people have been calling the religious right the bettyellen Jan 2014 #69

Still trying? dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #45

Straw man argument? Please explain. George II Jan 2014 #62

Already did that dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #73

Ah, the dance continues.... George II Jan 2014 #75

No it doesn't dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #79

Hey George! Caretha Jan 2014 #77

Not really, no. Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #58

How so? seattledo Jan 2014 #74

Forced birth + no paid leave is extreme. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #81

Nope. It fits perfectly. (nt) paleotn Jan 2014 #96

Would Tealiban be more preferable? nt livingwagenow Jan 2014 #100

Any group that wants to restrict the freedoms of others in the name of religion mountain grammy Jan 2014 #101

Referring to them as "right wing religious extremists" would be so much better, especially for.... George II Jan 2014 #105

No required paid sick leave either TexasBushwhacker Jan 2014 #24

More exceptionalism!! oldandhappy Jan 2014 #28

In Denmark they also get paid PATERNAL leave. cui bono Jan 2014 #29

It makes sense. Triana Jan 2014 #31

Yes dreamnightwind Jan 2014 #40

In Germany too and here's why: FourScore Jan 2014 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author FourScore Jan 2014 #57

There's another angle jeff47 Jan 2014 #103

EI also provides 'Parental' benefits here for a period of up to 35 weeks, polly7 Jan 2014 #72

k&r n/t RainDog Jan 2014 #34

We can't have "lazy mothers" Politicalboi Jan 2014 #37

Wait, do you really expect them to actually care about the vessels (women) that carry those babies? Lunacee_2013 Jan 2014 #52

American Exceptionalism. Exceptionally backward, that is. DirkGently Jan 2014 #55

They don't understand why women are working outside the home to begin with. FourScore Jan 2014 #59

Once you're born it's bootstrap time. JEB Jan 2014 #60

that is a disturbing map frwrfpos Jan 2014 #61

we are exceptional!! lunasun Jan 2014 #76

Civilization's bane The Wizard Jan 2014 #63

Oh, Beautiful defacto7 Jan 2014 #80

American business never concerns itself with things maternal..... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #87

what does forced birth and paid leave have to do with one another? ileus Jan 2014 #89

Job security and financial stress A Little Weird Jan 2014 #91

I live in one of the two nations that has a half year or more of maternity leave davidpdx Jan 2014 #90

That is a damning map! blackspade Jan 2014 #92

But we're the ''Greatest Nation'' in the world! YOHABLO Jan 2014 #94

It wasn't too long ago onlyadream Jan 2014 #97

What does this tell us about the nation? Enthusiast Jan 2014 #98