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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
20. I'm not sure who "the rest of us" is supposed to mean.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:58 PM
Jan 2014

My father never got to go to college. He started working in a union as an apprentice carpenter until he became a General Contractor and started his own business. My brother never got to go to college, he went to work in the restaurant business and moved up into management. My husband never went to college. He entered the Army as a Medic right after high school and after leaving the Army he went to work servicing diesel machinery in the field.

Of my closest relatives my FIL has an MBA and he works like an animal. My MIL (now passed) had a degree in Education but chose to be a homemaker. My step-mother is a CPA, now retired.

My dad helped subsidize my college but I did take out some loans. Life's circumstances came along and while my husband is willing to pay for me to return to college and finish my 4-year degree I cannot justify the expense in my heart. I would LOVE to be a professional writer but at this point in time family obligations -- which I joyfully accept -- aren't leaving an opportunity for that pursuit. My first job during my college years was as an Administrative Assistant, not for my creative talents but because I could properly format a business letter. During the 2009 recession most of my co-workers were laid off but I remained because my boss thought I had a little moxie on the ball so he groomed me to be his assistant Project Manager. I actually appreciate the twists and turns.

I fully understand this all just anecdotal. I don't feel cheated and I certainly don't begrudge anyone who can pursue their passions (in fact my husband and my brother keep toying with the idea of opening a restaurant together because my husband is such a good cook) but the fact remains: if someone gets to pursue their passions they are indulging in a luxury that most do not get to enjoy. There's no harm in that; God bless 'em if they get to live their dream. Find your dream and chase it with all your heart and soul and be the best at it. But if people ever mistake luxury for entitlement they will only disappoint themselves and probably piss off everyone else who isn't as fortunate.

A college degree tazkcmo Jan 2014 #1
yep. that is an unspoken truth about one value of degrees in work place Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #2
You are correct! tazkcmo Jan 2014 #4
4 years in a machine shop as an apprentice with a Good Reference from the boss.... bvar22 Jan 2014 #21
You might enjoy this then. zeemike Jan 2014 #24
Fascinating - Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Jan 2014 #29
Excellent point. Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #33
Everyone should have a Master's degree to haul away their own garbage. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #3
car repair may have been less of an apt example for protection of skilled labor Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #7
"The fact that SOME people ... does not mean we should all give up on our dreams" Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #10
no. people today are calling it some aphorism for the rich and luxurious Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #17
I'm not sure who "the rest of us" is supposed to mean. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #20
+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #50
Straight from the right wing capitalist playbook - TBF Jan 2014 #9
You conjure some fiction of a world that doesn't exist just to insult me? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #11
lol - hit a nerve, huh. Not surprised. nt TBF Jan 2014 #12
Um, no; I'm stating the plainly obvious. The entire basis of your criticism is fictitious. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #14
Profit, profit, profit - TBF Jan 2014 #42
You wrote -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #47
What we don't need is all the $$$ in the hands of a few - TBF Jan 2014 #48
When did I ever say wealth should be concentrated in the hands of a few? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #49
When you propped up economic inequality by stating TBF Jan 2014 #51
"You are stating that some humans must be subjugated and degraded in order for others to benefit." Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #54
Dumb to demand equality for others? TBF Jan 2014 #55
Again, you are fabricating your outrage. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #60
"Yet these are all necessary occupations. Some people take jobs because they need the money ..." TBF Jan 2014 #61
Which part of it is untrue? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #62
The fact that you are NOT outraged by the economic inequality TBF Jan 2014 #63
Before you even joined this thread I had written to the OP -- Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #66
"pointless state of perpetual pissed-offedness" TBF Jan 2014 #75
wow Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #80
Yes, wow TBF Jan 2014 #81
I stand by each of those statements without apology. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #83
I disagree with your entire premise TBF Jan 2014 #88
Not long ago I was reading Livy, the ancient Roman historian. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #94
Wow! As an uninvolved bystander, I'd say .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #65
Thank-you but Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #67
Agree .... oldhippie Jan 2014 #68
I appreciate your kind words and salient observation. Thank-you again. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #72
How sad that we must look at discussions as winning or losing. Do you count the number of rhett o rick Jan 2014 #74
Yeah, because ..... oldhippie Jan 2014 #76
So you are saying that since other DU posters do it, you can do it? rhett o rick Jan 2014 #78
No, I didn't say that ... oldhippie Jan 2014 #79
Weren't we just discussing Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #85
If that "40% of the wealth" comment refers to the Walton family (and I'm betting it does) A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #73
I stand by my comments on economic inequality - TBF Jan 2014 #90
I don't argue your comments on economic inequality. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #92
Of course - hyperbole was not intended TBF Jan 2014 #93
Fair enough. A HERETIC I AM Jan 2014 #95
ATMs? We used to have Bank Clerks to do all those transactions. Credit cards? We used to need sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #82
Don't tell TBF because you might be accused of wanting to subjugate humans or something. n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #84
Is this really necessary? Seems low even for you. nt TBF Jan 2014 #87
What? You want machines to relive people of drudgery. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #89
Some degreed people start at the bottom of these jobs so they can move up knowledgeably and advance ancianita Jan 2014 #23
And the other message - Chris Christie is the worst person in the world EVER! truedelphi Jan 2014 #5
I sort of agree ... but Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #6
True, but then what we should be discussing TBF Jan 2014 #8
Yes, I agree, but Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #13
Because it benefits the powerful YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #15
Yes - their lackeys do. But there aren't so many TBF Jan 2014 #40
I think a lot of people still trust authority.. YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #69
Excellent point - TBF Jan 2014 #77
College should not be as expensive as it is. grntuscarora Jan 2014 #16
The "DWYL" OP was about how "DWYL" is used to blame the 99% for their problems. phantom power Jan 2014 #18
no. most people don't do what they want out of fear. Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #19
There is a lot of fear when you are a paycheck or two from homelessness PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #36
The point of employment is *selling* the hours of your life as profitably as possible. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #22
I've known young friends who did skilled labor work first, THEN afforded their college work after. ancianita Jan 2014 #25
no reason such things should be mutually exclusive fishwax Jan 2014 #96
"college is both" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #97
disparaging trade schools is a rather different issue fishwax Jan 2014 #98
I'm a big fan of my local community college. lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #99
I've recently discovered professional lawn care. obxhead Jan 2014 #26
I come from a family of Educators. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #27
Very profound and well-thought post. YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #28
"When profit comes first, everyone loses." Unfortunatley, not everybody. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #30
I respectfully disagree. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #32
I totally agree that the're not running the world in a way that benefits the human race. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #34
Their lives would be better, too. davidthegnome Jan 2014 #35
I think the problem is that unless the entire earth is blown to smithereens, the 1% will remain Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2014 #38
Your gem is near the end - TBF Jan 2014 #41
You should make this an OP. Excellent post, thank you! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author jeff47 Jan 2014 #31
Interesting lib87 Jan 2014 #37
Is this the third time I have agreed with you? I'm getting really worried sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #39
Why yes..that was me. :) Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #43
This is the first time I have agreed with PW. I am disappointed in you Vattel Jan 2014 #46
du rec. xchrom Jan 2014 #44
Anecdotally, I might advise someone not to go to college or to put it off at least... Hippo_Tron Jan 2014 #45
thank you! I can get behind that message. Public officials should be holding out higher education Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #56
+1000 YoungDemCA Jan 2014 #71
I used to believe "college" educated a person which led to a better life. I no longer do. BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #52
when I have more time I will share my story. But suffice to say I disagree with some of your broad Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #57
I never advocated online universities. They are nothing but degree mills BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #58
I know. I'm just sharing my personal limits on what is "relevant" higher education Pretzel_Warrior Jan 2014 #59
Agreed. Those are scams. BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #64
Education isn't a key to prosperity anymore. Or not nearly so much. Orsino Jan 2014 #53
OK, adding my two cents here... Lady Freedom Returns Jan 2014 #70
"Do what you love and love what you do" is elitist crap alarimer Jan 2014 #91
I have to agree with you on that one. redruddyred Jun 2014 #100
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