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Swede Atlanta

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51. It probably isn't fair to paint the flag enamored crowd with the same paintbrush.....
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:26 PM
Jan 2014

Different people view and use the flag for many different reasons.

For my father, a WWII vet, flying the flag was not so much a way of honoring this country but a way for him to remember and honor friends he lost in that terrible war and to remember and honor all those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country or those who come home broken men and women.

But there is definitely a segment of the population that believes flying the flag or wearing it or whatever makes them patriotic and better than others.

I have two neighbors who share that view. After 9-11 they would have had flags flying from every corner of their home if it had been allowed by the HOA. They had more flag pins on their clothing and flags flying every which way on their car including the yellow ribbon decal We Support Our Troops.

But when you later asked them if Iraq was a mistake they said no. When confronted with the fact we went to war based on very faulty intelligence at best they just mumbled how great America was for whooping them XXXXXXXs asses!

When asked if we shouldn't have paid for our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq by increasing taxes they said no they paid enough in taxes. Mind you one of these couples is retired. He was on SSDI already at age 57. They constantly rail against "welfare" and hate the ACA even though they are on socialized Medicare.

They claim that only the GOP have the "right" to wear the flag because anyone who isn't a puke is obviously a traitor to the country.

Not to mention all of their Bible thumping.

I'm sure these are the ones the OP is describing. I am as well incensed by these individuals because of their blatant hypocrisy and narcissism. They claim to love this country but demonstrate little actions to warrant that claim.

I for one learned at an early age to be very skeptical of "the flag". It is a man-made expression of a nation, nothing more. I respect the men and women who bravely fight to protect this nation. I respect those who fly and display the flag out of genuine love for this country. I chose to do none of those things because I do not believe in idols. As a Lutheran we eschew idolatry and it was one of Luther's greatest criticisms of the Catholic Church. I think it was that upbringing that led me to conclude that for me the flag had the prospect of becoming an idol rather than just a symbol of my country.

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I hate the Flag lapel pins katmondoo Jan 2014 #1
Traveling around Europe, the ONLY place you see flags is on buildings CurtEastPoint Jan 2014 #2
They have a better understanding of the dangers of 'patriotic jingoism'. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #47
I'm pretty sure driving a pickup truck with Warren Stupidity Jan 2014 #3
when iraq was just getting going, i saw this dude who had cut the top off of a full sized flag dionysus Jan 2014 #41
Sadly, waving our flag has become a code DirkGently Jan 2014 #4
perfectly stated Euphoria Jan 2014 #5
It's annoying. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #6
No need to have been in the military to wave the flag. That said, waving the flag Owl Jan 2014 #7
My Point Was The Most Fervent Flag Wavers Often Would Never Themselves Serve. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2014 #14
Patriotism Is The Last Refuge... Laxman Jan 2014 #8
At least those "Made In China" Yellow Ribbon Magnets have finally gone out of fashion! nt MADem Jan 2014 #9
Not really. Fawke Em Jan 2014 #42
Some years ago,... 3catwoman3 Jan 2014 #10
"When Fascism Comes to America... KauaiK Jan 2014 #11
Yep, exactly what we are seeing. They have taken religion and RKP5637 Jan 2014 #30
i remember the movie the 10 commandments and the golden calf thing dembotoz Jan 2014 #12
I am annoyed at all of the products out there Jenoch Jan 2014 #13
I hate that in essence those people stole my flag n/t Mira Jan 2014 #15
George Carlin said it best: rustydog Jan 2014 #16
Lol CFLDem Jan 2014 #17
This is never outdated. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #18
Republicans don't own the flag. Fuck that. I fly mine every day that isn't raining. Throd Jan 2014 #19
Your post is at best dissapointing. NM_Birder Jan 2014 #20
Touch a nerve? Jazzgirl Jan 2014 #21
Obviously A Super RW Flag Waver. I Served The Country In Vietnam Not The Flag. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2014 #22
You should read my post as well, actually you NEED to read it. NM_Birder Jan 2014 #25
. NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #23
Sure, want to see how ? I'll give you an example. NM_Birder Jan 2014 #24
44 years ago I swore an oath to defend The Constitution and The United States. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #32
Do you believe and honor that oath you took ? NM_Birder Jan 2014 #34
The flag is not a mystical object. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #44
lol,....that was weak,............... NM_Birder Jan 2014 #46
And your response tells me a lot too. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #48
and ? NM_Birder Jan 2014 #50
Waving a Bible and praying aloud in public makes you a Christian. DetlefK Jan 2014 #26
A lot of people fly or display the flag... Whiskeytide Jan 2014 #27
I would only bust on those who hide hate behind their flags, I hope. Orsino Jan 2014 #36
Well said. n/t. Whiskeytide Jan 2014 #38
I have never been one to prejudge Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #28
Isn't here a name for that? oldhippie Jan 2014 #43
Demography. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #49
Sadly, when I see the flag today I think of bigots and assholes, basically RKP5637 Jan 2014 #29
I remember back in 2008 when protobaggers attempted to paint Obama as unpatriotic, catbyte Jan 2014 #31
It's such a shame madamesilverspurs Jan 2014 #33
I display a flag my mother gave me. Inkfreak Jan 2014 #35
Ach! Flag worshippers. Iggo Jan 2014 #37
If I had to sit next to someone on a 2 day bus trip sammythecat Jan 2014 #39
So... Why don't you fly the flag? Glassunion Jan 2014 #40
That idiots use the flag doesn't make flying one inherently bad. WatermelonRat Jan 2014 #45
It probably isn't fair to paint the flag enamored crowd with the same paintbrush..... Swede Atlanta Jan 2014 #51
"Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people's brains Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #52
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