Though it's scary to agree with this Pope so often...this one isn't his quote...

[Scootaloo]

163. I think you're misconstruing rhe intent of these threads

it's not that Frankie is making the church a liberal organization. it's that he's making it a more liberal organization. That is news, and it is worthy of at least some gof-clapping. Especially when one takes a look through the chiurch's history. This guy's maybe not up to snuff to run the socialist party in Sweden or anything, but for a Pope, he's pretty radical in how he's going about all of this.

of course he's still got his boneheads positions. But he's being significantly less so than his predecessors, and is dragging the rest of the church along with him.

Think of it this way. You support the president, right? Ypu're a Democrat? Well, he didn't "evolve" his stance on gay rights until shortly prior to election season. He thinks having the NSA riffle through your computer is necessary for state security, and that yet more free trade agreements with a slave-holding nation across the pacific is in the interest of Americans - do I need to mention the weddings blown up by hte flying murder-bots?

I see the president not as a pinnacle of liberal thought and achievement - he's not. I regard him as a solid step in the right direction. I regard Pope Frankie in much the same way - I'm not expecting miracles (hah, hah, hah) but any positive movement is STILL positive movement.

I'm an atheist - though I see religion less of a "pox," and more of a magnificent waste of human energy and thought. And frankly I could care less what goes on under those magical hats priest-types wear. But hey, i'm still willing to extend credit for effort.

I don't think that appointing a woman cardina,, simply o point at her and say "HAY YALL LOOKEE A FEMALE CARDINAL!" would actually do any good, change anything, or even demonstrate something. It'd just be tokenism. Now, female priests, there's something worth looking for.