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55. Famous story: cow versus bull in college (and life)
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:51 PM
Jan 2014

The essay Examanship and the Liberal arts by William Perry,
link: http://www.longwood.edu/staff/isaacsw/Examship.pdf ,
humorously tells the famous story of how a student ended up taking the final exam without actually taking the course. The first part of the exam asked the student to write about the meaning of some idea in the reading the students were assigned--which this student, our "hero," didn't do!

Yet the student used his own intuition to write an essay better than the students who did take the course. The second part of the test involved factual aspects of the reading and of course, our "hero" failed. After all, he hadn't even taken the course!

There are two types of people in college (politics)

cow (pure): data, however relevant, without relevancies.
bull (pure): relevancies, however relevant, without data

The student was given a high grade for his essay.

Perhaps this value accounts for the final anomaly: as instructors, we are inclined to reward bull
highly, where we do not detect its intent, to the consternation of the bullster's acquaintances. And
often we do not examine the matter too closely. After a long evening of reading blue books full
of cow, the sudden meeting with a student who at least understands the problems of one's field
provides a lift like a drought of refreshing wine, and a strong disposition toward trust.


Is anyone surprised that the media and the public does the same?

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Well... Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #1
well played xchrom Jan 2014 #2
It's a mindset Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #4
You are describing my father Demeter Jan 2014 #8
Definitely Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #17
Just a minor point spooky3 Jan 2014 #26
You are describing Marissa Mayer at Yahoo, from what I can tell, what I've read. jtuck004 Jan 2014 #10
She's 38 Blue_Adept Jan 2014 #18
Yes, and the Harvard students described in the spooky3 Jan 2014 #27
Can the "Baby Boomers are crap" crap. WinkyDink Jan 2014 #39
Nice broad brush there. Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #41
Wow. Boomer bashing. How original. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2014 #53
The person I know IRL most like this gollygee Jan 2014 #60
Better give that bird a fish . . . another_liberal Jan 2014 #14
Dunning-Kruger effect SharonAnn Jan 2014 #62
Lying with authority can be a winning move in Scrabble truebluegreen Jan 2014 #3
This... chervilant Jan 2014 #5
What gets me are all the people who watch RW media who think they're informed LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #6
Then you must challenge him, in the sense that he watch and read a more well rounded Dustlawyer Jan 2014 #34
I have kind of a similar situation. Liberalynn Jan 2014 #40
I get the same thing - in another direction hfojvt Jan 2014 #47
If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, Arkansas Granny Jan 2014 #7
That's America for ya RobertEarl Jan 2014 #9
Sorta like Chris Mathews when the subject is marijuana. B Calm Jan 2014 #11
Is this the same Chris Matthews Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #42
Deceit and Self-Deception reddread Jan 2014 #12
This is true for all rightwing crazies ... ananda Jan 2014 #13
Signs of the times Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #29
Stephen Colbert's "Truthiness" mates well with this. Ian_rd Jan 2014 #15
People cannot be convinced to change their minds AngryAmish Jan 2014 #16
K&R! These are the MFers that have destroyed the nation. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #19
Why is it that fools are so sure of themselves while wiser men are filled with doubt? Scuba Jan 2014 #20
Reminds of the words I heard somewhere kairos12 Jan 2014 #31
this makes me laugh. My dad had an obsessive dislike/distrust of anyone out of Harvard or Yale B cali Jan 2014 #21
Because they went to Harvard Business School? DeSwiss Jan 2014 #22
Alpha male syndrome. Infiltrated the water in Harvard Business School long ago. Squinch Jan 2014 #23
What they are really teaching them is to be good at sales - TBF Jan 2014 #24
It's exactly this. We live in a culture where most everything is for sale. hunter Jan 2014 #52
It's the Dunning Kruger Effect, in which Berlin Expat Jan 2014 #25
Respect Authoritah! No excetions! Listen to da Maya! Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2014 #28
Disease of Conceit deutsey Jan 2014 #30
I have noticed that from Malcolm X to Margaret Thatcher - speakers who speak with absolute moral Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #32
It's a good survival strategy. CFLDem Jan 2014 #33
HBS alumni........ Hotler Jan 2014 #35
There is a saying once..... Hotler Jan 2014 #36
Brings to mind the old expression - "When you can't dazzle them with bullwinkle428 Jan 2014 #37
"Be wrong but be strong" siligut Jan 2014 #38
Because they have overblown egos Sweet Freedom Jan 2014 #43
For irony, reread this thread and count how many here KNOW the answer.... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #44
Everyone wants to matter. Orsino Jan 2014 #45
Monologue trumps dialogue sibelian Jan 2014 #46
Ah yes, The Power of Positive Thinking bemildred Jan 2014 #48
Majority of people do not tolerate ambiguity well. kiranon Jan 2014 #49
When I was a boss one of the things I found was a lot of workers would rather be led by El_Johns Jan 2014 #50
You don't need an education to enjoy listening to yourself. Coyotl Jan 2014 #51
Many times in my corporate life I was astounded when attending some inner-circle RKP5637 Jan 2014 #54
Famous story: cow versus bull in college (and life) Democrats_win Jan 2014 #55
American? Have you heard the French? aikoaiko Jan 2014 #56
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt" lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #57
I see your quote and raise you :) DonCoquixote Jan 2014 #59
If I were the academic dean at HBS dickthegrouch Jan 2014 #58
I like your professor's lesson BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #61
I noticed this when discussing healthcare on HuffPo Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #63
Ignorant in their arrogance, Arrogant in their ignorance...nt uriel1972 Jan 2014 #64
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