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longship

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22. Brain dead is dead, by definition.

Thu Jan 23, 2014, 01:47 AM

Jan 2014

If the brain dies, the body dies. Keeping it ventilated does not change that fact. What is ethical about doing what is being done here?

By all we know about the human body, neurology, and everything, brain dead is dead.

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Fetus of brain dead woman appears to be deformed. [View all] Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 OP

The womans husband and their living child deserve to be allowed to move on. The judge Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #1

Morbid, horrifying, inhumane theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #2

For those looking askance at dailymail link, here is nbc link too. uppityperson Jan 2014 #3

These people forcing this are evil ghouls. May they reap all the karma they are earning right now. Squinch Jan 2014 #4

How despicable.... defacto7 Jan 2014 #5

I don't understand why anyone, even the most rabid pro-lifer Arkansas Granny Jan 2014 #6

It's magic thinking. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #16

life begins at conception, caring ends at birth pstokely Jan 2014 #30

Is this really America? JaneyVee Jan 2014 #7

This is just horrible. Sissyk Jan 2014 #8

"Dead and deteriorating body"...not really? Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #9

Yes really. jeff47 Jan 2014 #10

Nope. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #11

Yep. jeff47 Jan 2014 #12

there was obvious Hypothalamic activity meaning there was no brain death azurnoir Jan 2014 #25

Loss of pituitary hormones and the autonomic nervous system kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #15

Brain dead is dead, by definition. longship Jan 2014 #22

I never said there was anything ethical about it. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #24

I think what the comments above Boudica the Lyoness Jan 2014 #29

Except there was no activity on EEG and no spontaneous breathing (apnea test was negative) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #32

If they were maintainted for years, there must have been some basic function kcr Jan 2014 #31

I hope they let her go. PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #13

There's no excuse for putting the family through this. herding cats Jan 2014 #14

I thought I had seen the full extent of horror at the hands of unethical medical and legal acts in AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #17

No shit. I can't express how angry this makes me. And ANYONE who thinks 'giving the fetus a shot' PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #36

And will the intrepid defenders of ignoring the woman's wishes acknowledge that they were wrong? KitSileya Jan 2014 #37

Never. I predict they will defend it further. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #38

I wonder how much the family will have to pay. KitSileya Jan 2014 #40

+1 gollygee Jan 2014 #42

This viability issue was raised from the very start. gvstn Jan 2014 #18

A true legal abomination written and enforced by cruel idiots jsr Jan 2014 #19

i hope the family sues them for causing more pain JI7 Jan 2014 #20

I hope they do too. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #26

Unfortunately Sgent Jan 2014 #27

There were lawyers saying that the hospital Ilsa Jan 2014 #34

How fucking "BIG" can the government get. MsPithy Jan 2014 #21

They hate big business when it comes to regulating and taxing the rich. They love big liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #23

I hope decency prevails in this case azurnoir Jan 2014 #28

This happens when politicians and their semi-literate base malaise Jan 2014 #33

kick. nt Ilsa Jan 2014 #35

For people who are such fervent believers in the afterlife CFLDem Jan 2014 #39

again sickened that coverage for the most part comes from outside of the us dembotoz Jan 2014 #41

and yet, Texas (16) and Florida (7), were responsible for 59% of executions G_j Jan 2014 #43