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mindwalker_i

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9. Obama says it's useful, but the report says it hasn't provided anything concrete

Thu Jan 23, 2014, 02:53 PM

Jan 2014

to stop a terrorist attack. So how is it useful? I suspect that it's useful for catching other criminals, such as drug dealer or distributors, as well as other crimes. However, since the source of incriminating evidence is not given to the defendent, he or she cannot defend against it and, and best, there will be wrongful convictions. At worst (I hope), people will be targetted for political reasons and this data will be used to find some way to get them in jail.

So, yeah, it's useful.

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U.S. privacy board says NSA phone program illegal; should end [View all] DirkGently Jan 2014 OP

k and r nashville_brook Jan 2014 #1

And more from the NYT: DirkGently Jan 2014 #3

After listening to his speech the other night, bvar22 Jan 2014 #8

It's a huge business already. I'm sure there's a DirkGently Jan 2014 #10

Thatchernomics is not a good thing MisterP Jan 2014 #16

Obama says it's useful, but the report says it hasn't provided anything concrete mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #9

The Intelligence community assumes all data is "useful." DirkGently Jan 2014 #11

Exactly, and the key point can be summarized thusly: mindwalker_i Jan 2014 #17

link to the ACLU statement --> nashville_brook Jan 2014 #2

Right. The ACLU and the EFF were RIGHT. NSA was wrong. DirkGently Jan 2014 #4

here's the full text of the oversight board report --> nashville_brook Jan 2014 #5

Thanks! DirkGently Jan 2014 #12

K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #6

here's the EFF statement --> nashville_brook Jan 2014 #7

So Snowden DID blow the whistle on illegal activity. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #13

THAT is a good point. DirkGently Jan 2014 #15

+1000 G_j Jan 2014 #19

eggsactly. nashville_brook Jan 2014 #25

The program is too dangerous LittleBlue Jan 2014 #14

That's what Bernie Sanders said about it also and he also said 'it has to stop' sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #18

The industry will make it hard to roll this stuff back. DirkGently Jan 2014 #22

I agree. In the end it is all about money and we have no significant number of elected officials sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #23

At least the conversation has begun. DirkGently Jan 2014 #24

Hmmm. Where are the "but it's only metadata" apologists? Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #20

K&R Solly Mack Jan 2014 #21

K&R woo me with science Jan 2014 #26