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81. I don't need to check, I know what would happen if someone didn't have a passport. That

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:28 AM

Jan 2014

was my point, which you appear to have missed. The US Government knew also, so again, why, if we have moron Republicans like Rogers, still in hiding it appears, claiming that he 'might be a Russian Spy, then what were they thinking by 'sending him safely home'? Either they are lying now, so they had no fear he was a spy, or if they want to go with this, then they have a whole lot of explaining to do. Iow, if they are telling the truth, (excuse me while I laugh) then they sent a spy safely home, didn't they?

The only obligation someone who witnesses a crime has is to report it. That is what Whistle Blowers do, they report crimes. Now we have even more confirmation that the Bush/Cheney crime of spying on the American people, still going on and even worse, IS against the Constitution of the US. There really is not doubt anymore.

Snowden, knowing as everyone does now, what has happened to other Whistle Blowers here where there is no chance of the actual crimes being investigated but of the messenger being persecuted, see Drake, Manning et al, did exactly the right thing. He met his obligations to report crimes and then to take care that he remains free to be able speak for himself. Manning was isolated, tortured and never allowed to speak for himself.

If we lived in a real Democracy I would say he should have remained, but we don't as the world knows. The Rule of Law has been suspended, War Criminals and Wall St criminals are protected here, while witnesses to crimes who report them are persecuted.

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Thank you Anderson Cooper. 'No evidence that we could find that Snowden is a Russian Spy'! [View all] sabrina 1 Jan 2014 OP

did he use Google to confirm that? Whisp Jan 2014 #1

You mean Rogers? Who knows, now that he has been challenged for proof, he's in hiding! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #2

I don't think he /she means Rodgers....they mean Cooper...what evidence did they present ? pkdu Jan 2014 #6

That is not the question people should be asking. CNN contacted Rogers who refused to speak to them. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #7

Yo sabrina 1 (and anyone that cares) Titonwan Jan 2014 #14

Thank yuou Titowan, just saw it on DU. Excellent questions and answers from Snowden. So glad he is sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #67

He's a lot safer in Russia than some banana republic, nilesobek Jan 2014 #20

Erm NO....Cooper makes a claim ...he needs to defend it, that IS the question. Nt pkdu Jan 2014 #63

Anderson Cooper should prove that Snowden *isn't* a Russian spy? ronnie624 Jan 2014 #21

Cooper should defend his statement with evidence , as a reporter, abso- fuckin- lutely. Nt pkdu Jan 2014 #64

I have no doubt that Snowden's FSB lawyer confirmed that Snowden msanthrope Jan 2014 #19

I have no doubt you have some evidence of the ridiculous claim or you would never, ever sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #24

My dearest Sabrina--you misunderstand. Since Snowden is represented by an FSB lawyer, and msanthrope Jan 2014 #25

Got some links to what this lawyer has said? And the lawyer's name. I have no doubts otoh sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #34

Seriously....you don't know who Snowden's lawyer in Russia is? He's a book-lender. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #35

Yes, of course I know, I know who his lawyers are here. Care to provide the link where his lawyer sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #36

Go back and read what I wrote, Sabrina. You seem to be confused. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #38

I read what you wrote. You have no doubt that Cooper spoke to Anatoly Kucherena sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #42

Still ain't gettin' it, are you? msanthrope Jan 2014 #45

Don't worry, I get it, lol! Are you claiming that Snowden has no US attorneys? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #46

Can you name said counselor? I am unaware of the brave soul you claim has msanthrope Jan 2014 #47

Since the US stranded Snowden in Russia where he did not want to be, his father retained sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #48

Can you name that attorney????nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #51

After he was stranded in Russia by the US Government his father retained a US Attorney for him. I sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #53

Kindly name the attorney who has entered his appearance for Mr. Snowden? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #56

After the US Govt forced Snowden to remain in Russia sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #57

Again, can you kindly name Snowden's legal counsel in the US? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #58

Could you please state your opinion on the Republican moron who is currently in hiding, who sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #59

Again....can you kindly name Snowden's legal counsel in the US?????nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #60

So is Snowden a Russian Spy or not, in your opinion? Is there some reason why you are avoiding the sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #61

I never answer your questions. Tell me the name of Snowden's attorney, Sabrina!!! msanthrope Jan 2014 #62

Why don't you tell us the name of Snowden's attorney, I know you're dying to and we all know why! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #65

Just tell us the name of.Mr. Snowden's American attorney. You seem to know it! nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #83

What s wrong with you? You can't find the answers yourself? riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #72

most aptly named bobduca Jan 2014 #80

Do you have the name of Mr. Snowden's American attorney? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #84

The ACLU has taken his case. I've already given a link about that riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #87

The ACLU has not been retained by Mr. Snowden, nor have they entered an appearance msanthrope Jan 2014 #88

Nobody has appeared in federal court for Snowden riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #90

You're now citing Tucker Carlson???? Fail..and lemme 'splain something to you.... msanthrope Jan 2014 #93

Again...kindly give me the name of Mr. Snowden's American lawyer. msanthrope Jan 2014 #82

Of course she knew and probably had a couple of links ready to try to discredit them. Isn't sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #86

Kindly tell us the name of Mr. Snowden's American attorney, please. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #89

Benjamin Wizner and Jessica Radack. Wizner is with the ACLU and Radack, a whistleblower herself... Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #91

Do you have a link to support that??? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #94

Why did the US Government strand Snowden in Russia? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #97

Sabrina, I don't answer your questions. you earned the honor of being the only DUer whose msanthrope Jan 2014 #98

You do answer my questions. See the previous sub thread. It's the other way around, I don't answer sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #99

I provided a link to Wizner in my post which you have ignored riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #101

Yeah...I don't click on the malware at Tucker Carlson's site. Do you have an actual.cite. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #102

You're provided a link and won't open it? Then want to claim ignorance? riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #103

'willful ignorance' is spot on. bobduca Jan 2014 #104

Crickets. I guess if the answer doesn't come from Sabrina. ..? riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #95

Um...you need to refresh your page more often...not only did I answer, msanthrope Jan 2014 #96

You've been provided with links riderinthestorm Jan 2014 #100

It's a game, which I have always refused to play. And each time when someone provides the supposed sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #105

Seem you think badly of anyone that embarrasse your authoritarian leader figures Clapper and Alexand rhett o rick Jan 2014 #50

I am kissing whom??? What are you saying??? nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #52

I asked how you rationalize supporting strong authoritarian Republicans like Clapper and Alexander. rhett o rick Jan 2014 #68

Actually, in this thread I'm just trying to.find out who has been retained by Mr. Snowden msanthrope Jan 2014 #85

Those two Clapper and Alexender are Bush loyalists. Makes you wonder why they were fired five years sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #66

I wish it were that simple. Had you asked that of Obama, he wouldnt have told you rhett o rick Jan 2014 #69

Write someone in. If enough people did that, what would happen? Let's say a movement grew among the sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #71

If you could get enough votes to be a spoiler, then maybe the Democratic Party would rhett o rick Jan 2014 #73

"other than the Republican's statements..." and a certain particularly vocal contingent on DU Electric Monk Jan 2014 #3

I don't know, but you can be sure they'll be here soon. Th1onein Jan 2014 #4

You're not the only one who wonders why they bother to come here where their views are so much in sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #5

I hope they bring some evidence with them. So far, like CNN, I've had no luck getting anything other sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #8

What's a 'CT'? (n/t) Titonwan Jan 2014 #10

'Conspiracy Theory'. randome Jan 2014 #17

They have lots of Commie conspiracy theoriies. The vivid old cold war imaginings similar to the sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #26

team players all! bobduca Jan 2014 #70

K&R Titonwan Jan 2014 #9

is Anderson seeking 'relevance' or is he an 'egotist' as claimed about Snowden or Assange? Swagman Jan 2014 #11

Gloria's little man is obviously an ODS afflicted racist. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #13

I think Snowden is irrelevant at this point, but how can anyone look at either of those Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #12

It could be because Rogers statement was so outrageous and the Media has become so irrelvant itself sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #27

Now you trust CNN?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #15

The news media is inconsistent. Titonwan Jan 2014 #18

What's important, ronnie624 Jan 2014 #22

`` G_j Jan 2014 #31

You noticed that too? Never a shred of evidence offered. The old accusation by inference tactic sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #49

The right wing corporate media is not trustworthy. Which is why Rogers took his Conspiracy Theory to sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #28

A helluva lot more than the NSA and their bosses. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #33

I trust CNN over a repub like Mike Rogers. Why do you trust wingnut republicans? last1standing Jan 2014 #76

It's a good thing Snowden's reputation is still intact. randome Jan 2014 #16

Compared to Congress' and especially Republicans in Congress? Latest polls show young people sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #30

Sorry To Nitpick, But... Liberal_Dog Jan 2014 #23

Thanks, I will edit that, definitely do not want to give him any ideas! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #32

Of course, had he claimed the opposite whatchamacallit Jan 2014 #29

Doesn't matter if you like Snowden or hate him... NCTraveler Jan 2014 #37

Those defending him from smears are defending Whistle Blowers, not especially him. Just as they sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #39

Who in this world should care about defending him from smears. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #40

Who in this world should care about their Government Officials lying to them? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #41

It is pretty clear I am addressing some of the right people. Not all of them of course. NCTraveler Jan 2014 #43

Whistle Blowers laws don't need to be changed, they need to be abided by. Throwing Whistle Blowers sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #109

If Anderson Cooper says it... HipChick Jan 2014 #54

If a Republican says it must be true is what you're saying? I don't want to misunderstand your sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #55

Guity till proved innocent, huh? Accused without proof by a wingnut and you support that. last1standing Jan 2014 #77

His passport was revoked 22 June. He flew to Moscow 23 June. struggle4progress Jan 2014 #74

Exactly, they stranded him in Russia and more and more people are asking 'WHY'? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #75

Ain't that the truth. Titonwan Jan 2014 #78

He should have had better advisors, they could have told him if he had a warrant for felony Thinkingabout Jan 2014 #79

I don't need to check, I know what would happen if someone didn't have a passport. That sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #81

And he was issued an Ecuadorian travel document (later revoked) in order to leave Hong Kong. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #92

Thank you, Luminous Animal. Facts are beautiful things! sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #106

And this from Snowden Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #107

That is a shame. I read that and hope he is in a better job by now. He is so right, the world sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #108