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demwing

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33. I see it's time for another of your strawmen...

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 02:26 PM

Jan 2014

I never said that I "don't think the 1% deserve jail time for their crimes." You don't seem to be able to avoid judging others based on what you pretend they have said. Shame...

Again, not all crimes are equal. Wage fixing in Silicon Valley is not my idea of a human rights violation. Some crimes of the 1% may well deserve jail time. Forcing your employees to work in unsafe conditions, especially when doing so results in injury or death, is an example. In the case discussed in the OP, I think asset seizure is more appropriate, such as is done with the drug dealers or other criminal enterprises. Dedicate the proceeds to the affected employees. Solve the problem, if possible.

Jail time doesn't pay a day, or even an hour of back wages.

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Why George Lucas, Eric Schmidt, (and yes, Steve Jobs) Should Go to Jail: Conspiring to Reduce Wages [View all] BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 OP

Point out the obvious... Steve Jobs is dead. nt justiceischeap Jan 2014 #1

Yep. Dunno what Yves Smith was thinking there BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #2

but...but..JAIL!! demwing Jan 2014 #3

I guess they could dig up his body justiceischeap Jan 2014 #5

Sounds good as long as they all share the same cell. nt Incitatus Jan 2014 #24

Sometimes, outrage is the only rational reaction. Or do you disagree with the D of J merrily Jan 2014 #10

Does this REALLY warrant jail time? demwing Jan 2014 #12

It is the dispassionate criminal, operating for financial gain, that is the worst evil Demeter Jan 2014 #17

You've convinced me demwing Jan 2014 #18

So, You can empathize with an individual victim, but not a victimized class Demeter Jan 2014 #20

Let me make this simple for you demwing Jan 2014 #23

Let me make this even simpler Demeter Jan 2014 #32

I see it's time for another of your strawmen... demwing Jan 2014 #33

Well. my wife and I are part of the 1%...how much time do I need to serve? brooklynite Jan 2014 #50

Wage-fixing is theft on a massive scale. Not to mention collusion, conspiracy & fraud. El_Johns Jan 2014 #35

yeah yeah massive scale, I get it demwing Jan 2014 #37

I'm looking for big gangsters to be prosecuted more harshly than little gangsters. El_Johns Jan 2014 #38

Sweet, me too demwing Jan 2014 #39

Little gangsters get both prison time & asset seizure. With little to no recourse. El_Johns Jan 2014 #40

You act like complete asset seizure is just an inconvenience demwing Jan 2014 #46

Do something far worse than jail. RC Jan 2014 #27

EXACTLY /nt demwing Jan 2014 #29

Here's why Jobs was mentioned Fumesucker Jan 2014 #4

I get why he was mentioned but the title of the piece justiceischeap Jan 2014 #7

Jobs got what we all get Fumesucker Jan 2014 #8

I thought that wording the headline as it is worded and using parentheses merrily Jan 2014 #11

So many people you think were so good turn out not to be AZ Progressive Jan 2014 #44

"The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones." Demeter Jan 2014 #43

gonna need a shovel. . pipoman Jan 2014 #6

K&R merrily Jan 2014 #9

This is what capitalists do. nt TBF Jan 2014 #13

This is what FASCISTS do. Demeter Jan 2014 #21

So, it turns out George Lucas's creation of Darth Vader ... nikto Jan 2014 #14

creation? He STOLE that and a lot more reddread Jan 2014 #22

Stolen? Don't you mean influenced by? FSogol Jan 2014 #25

Darth Vader is Darkseid? villager Jan 2014 #28

almost as much as he is Dr Doom reddread Jan 2014 #34

Steve Jobs was a genius RedstDem Jan 2014 #15

Hey, there's a tech worker shortage, didn't you know that ?? (sarcasm) nt antigop Jan 2014 #16

It's all of a piece. And the net result has been to drive wages down. I think it's pretty much El_Johns Jan 2014 #42

Well, The Phantom Menace should at least merit a few months at Camp X-ray. NuclearDem Jan 2014 #19

Steve Jobs was anti-labor, union busting scum. Fuck anyone who lionizes that greedy bastard. May he Erose999 Jan 2014 #26

+1. He's not unique in silicon valley though. Doubt any of those peeps are humanitarians El_Johns Jan 2014 #36

Does your "fuck anyone" include Obama? former9thward Jan 2014 #45

Yes, it does. Obama is not really a friend of labor either, see also: TPP Erose999 Jan 2014 #47

not sure I mind what Google did hfojvt Jan 2014 #30

Anyone know what happened to this case? Is it ongoing or dead? hedgehog Jan 2014 #31

A jury trial date has been set for May 27 in San Jose, El_Johns Jan 2014 #41

That's a different case; three have settled in the other one and two have yet to do so. REP Jan 2014 #49

3 have settled; 2 have not REP Jan 2014 #48

the thing that really irks me jollyreaper2112 Jan 2014 #51