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sofa king

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34. My guess:
Sun Mar 18, 2012, 12:10 PM
Mar 2012

It is an Executive Order, and since this President isn't G.W. Bush, we can probably safely assume that President Obama is not conferring some new power upon himself through an inexpertly written EO crafted by whatever hung-over Patrick Henry intern was in charge that day.

In fact, I know for sure there are no new powers being claimed here because for years now I've been writing about how President Obama can and possibly has been using these very powers to push Congress around behind closed doors:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/sofa%20king/100

The key is that the powers were authorized by Congress in the Bush years, the legislation was terribly written, it was incompetently executed by a criminal cabal looking to use the power primarily as a way to politically manipulate the electorate through fear, and previous executive orders issued during the Bush years were quite likely flawed because of those Patrick Henry kids mentioned above. The "state of emergency" clause is also highly important, because the U.S. has quietly operated in such a state for most of the 20th Century and all of this one.

I suspect therefore that this EO is merely a re-write of previous EOs, adjusted to reflect changes in the bureaucracy and to correct any (likely numerous) errors from previous implementations.

If I am also correct that the President is getting what he wants in negotiations by threatening to drop the Dictator Obama shoe, this serves as a timely reminder to the oil industry that if they continue mucking about, the President can and will take over the business, whenever the hell he damned well pleases.

All thanks to the Republican-controlled Congress of the Bush years.

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If this is true our energy problem could be solved. The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #1
I bet the reason is because the U.S. may have found out that an Israeli strike on Iran is imminent. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #26
That was the second thought that went through my head. vaberella Mar 2012 #63
That's the first thing that went through my head! n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #62
I hear lots of heads exploding ... Historic NY Mar 2012 #2
Well.... Historic NY Mar 2012 #42
The founders roll over in their graves yet again. Vattel Mar 2012 #3
More power to the executive branch. woo me with science Mar 2012 #22
My guess: sofa king Mar 2012 #34
More power compared to when? onenote Mar 2012 #36
Presidents have been claiming more power than they have under the Constitution Vattel Mar 2012 #50
I don't get your meaning. How is this a bad thing? vaberella Mar 2012 #64
I don't ProSense Mar 2012 #4
Nationalizing oil is good. We've been going to war for oil, meaning all aspects of energy.. freshwest Mar 2012 #9
LOL.....this almost seems like it has to be a joke, but it is not. Scary. Logical Mar 2012 #5
Link to the full text of the Executive Order here: Poll_Blind Mar 2012 #6
Thank you for posting it. woo me with science Mar 2012 #7
How ProSense Mar 2012 #11
An assault? It's better than privatizing. We're nationalizing. Or are you afraid of self-dependence? FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #27
Explain how this is an assault? It's lost to me. n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #65
This is frightening, if true. I know a couple of conservatives who claim that President Obama plans razorman Mar 2012 #8
I remember a few progressives who feared the same under bush/cheney.... peacebird Mar 2012 #10
I do not for one minute believe that President Obama would do such a thing. I have never actually razorman Mar 2012 #19
I am getting long in the tooth also Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #54
I agree. While I have doubts that this EO is all that its critics claim, I am also aware that there razorman Mar 2012 #72
You ProSense Mar 2012 #14
They argued the same about Clinton. MineralMan Mar 2012 #18
True. I also recall some folks here saying similar things about GWB. Thankfully, razorman Mar 2012 #44
As far as Executive Orders are concerned, any President can change them MineralMan Mar 2012 #48
That's somewhat comforting. It is just an EO, not a law. It can be overturned more easily. razorman Mar 2012 #51
The Examiner is not a resource for reliable journalism. Chorophyll Mar 2012 #12
Actual text is on whitehouse.gov ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #23
I did see that subsequently. Thanks. nt Chorophyll Mar 2012 #43
Good. Consider this scenario..... Avalux Mar 2012 #13
You think ProSense Mar 2012 #15
We are anticipating a war, woo me with science Mar 2012 #16
Nonsense ProSense Mar 2012 #17
Perhaps not a war. What could we be anticipating? woo me with science Mar 2012 #21
Why are you so afraid? randome Mar 2012 #24
FEMA camps!! FEMA camps!!... SidDithers Mar 2012 #45
You made ROFL! vaberella Mar 2012 #67
You're ProSense Mar 2012 #25
You pushed that exact same right wing talking point when you opposed nationalizing banks. girl gone mad Mar 2012 #53
Controlling our national resources to lower gas prices? The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #31
What are you on about? vaberella Mar 2012 #66
That order, in one form or another has been around for a MineralMan Mar 2012 #20
What is the point in having legislators then? nt Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #56
Well, well, well joy to the world Mar 2012 #28
Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #30
Oh look! Bobbie Jo Mar 2012 #41
Speaking of lifting the curtain... SidDithers Mar 2012 #46
Another example of someone twisting facts to suit their agenda onenote Mar 2012 #29
Your name should be Voice of Reason. The Wielding Truth Mar 2012 #32
Well, ProSense Mar 2012 #33
+1000 OKNancy Mar 2012 #37
Good post. +1 n/t tammywammy Mar 2012 #38
This is getting ridiculous... Bobbie Jo Mar 2012 #40
What sort of changes does it make re homeland security? nt Mojorabbit Mar 2012 #58
here are the links onenote Mar 2012 #59
Thank you Broderick Mar 2012 #60
Have you read the OPs posts... vaberella Mar 2012 #68
Did our constitutional Scholar read article 17 nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #35
Please read post 29 n/t tammywammy Mar 2012 #39
oscillation to power ~ indimuse Mar 2012 #47
and yet another endorsement from the "I believe anything I read" faction onenote Mar 2012 #49
i read the signing statement... 2...;) indimuse Mar 2012 #61
You need to read post 29...seriously though. n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #69
hmmm.. indimuse Mar 2012 #71
The Unitary Executive Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #52
You also need to read post 29. n/t vaberella Mar 2012 #70
This is RW "Black Helicopter" BS scaremongering. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #55
And the first thing Obama is going to do is put up toll booths on every highway! Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #57
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