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sabrina 1

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58. Here it is again in case you lose your posterity:

Fri Jan 24, 2014, 11:28 PM

Jan 2014

Yes, it means bigotry against Jews AND it also means bigotry against Muslims which we've seen plenty

of right here in the US and elsewhere. Bigotry in all its forms is ugly and one kind of bigotry doesn't diminish others. Unless of course you do not believe there is bigotry towards Arabs and Muslims in the Western world. I don't have to ask a victim of bigotry to know it when it when I see it.

So you don't agree that 'bigotry in all its forms is ugly'? Too bad. It is also DANGEROUS, just fyi.

Would you like me to repeat it again? You didn't say why it was 'wrong' but from you, I have to say that is quite an endorsement, directed as it was at someone who knows both what bigotry is and how dangerous it is.

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Thank You Internet... I Now Have A Different Understanding Of The Phrase... "Anti-Semitic"... [View all] WillyT Jan 2014 OP

It means hatred of jews, just like how homophobia means hatred of gays Kurska Jan 2014 #1

Lobbing the word around carelessly ... 1000words Jan 2014 #3

Are you Jewish? Kurska Jan 2014 #5

Yes 1000words Jan 2014 #8

I'll take your word that. Kurska Jan 2014 #11

There are some on these boards who prove me right 1000words Jan 2014 #19

I don't doubt it is used a rhetorical weapon. Kurska Jan 2014 #23

you learned that in your 4 months here? Mosby Jan 2014 #84

I've lurked this site pretty much from it's inception 1000words Jan 2014 #85

I've posted here for almost a decade Mosby Jan 2014 #89

LOL 1000words Jan 2014 #93

Yes, it means bigotry against Jews AND it also means bigotry against Muslims which we've seen plenty sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #45

Um, even under the very flawed definition that has been roundly trashed in this thread. Kurska Jan 2014 #51

You are correct. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #70

The word you are looking for is arabophobia nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #78

Wow. Could you be any more wrong?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #55

Here it is again in case you lose your posterity: sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #58

Yes, bigotry in all it's forms is ugly... SidDithers Jan 2014 #64

Bigotry is bigotry regardless of terminology. 'What's in a name, a rose by any other name would sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #72

And you're still wrong about the meaning of anti-Semitism...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #80

So Explain This: WillyT Jan 2014 #7

... Um I'm not your pet jew and it isn't my job to explain aipac to you. Kurska Jan 2014 #9

"Pet Jew" ??? - WTF ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #41

No, it is an expression of disgust at you demanding I explain some unrelated news article to you. Kurska Jan 2014 #42

Well... Whatever Is On Slow Cook In Your Mind... You Could Have Just Ignored It... WillyT Jan 2014 #44

Ask a relevant question receive a relevant answer. Kurska Jan 2014 #52

There's no mention of "anti-semitic" (or "semitic") in that article muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #96

You crack me up. That is all. nt babylonsister Jan 2014 #2

Guess Willy's Fuck AIPAC thread wasn't getting enough attention... SidDithers Jan 2014 #28

And Why Do You Find That Funny Sid... You Don't Support Debbie ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #43

'You don't support Debbie'? Good question but probably will remain unanswered. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #46

What I really find funny is your attempt to redefine the term "anti-Semitic"...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #54

You Still Haven't Answered The Question... WillyT Jan 2014 #60

You say that like this thread is an attempt at honest discussion...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #65

Well I'm In Earnest... How 'Bout You ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author WillyT Jan 2014 #4

Welp, my little personal theory was just confirmed. Kurska Jan 2014 #6

Please... Do Share... WillyT Jan 2014 #13

I'm a lot smarter than that Kurska Jan 2014 #14

"anti-semitic" was coined as a phrase that meant "anti-Jewish" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #10

So You're Gonna Let The Nazi Germans Determine What A Semite Is ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #16

now you're just trolling nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #32

+1...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #56

+1 nt Bonobo Jan 2014 #83

Yes,I'm siding with the Nazis. sufrommich Jan 2014 #49

Sorry, "anti-Semitic" only refers to hatred of Jews. It doesn't mean anything else. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #12

"trying to minimise Arab anti-Semitism by saying "but Arabs are Semites too!" Kurska Jan 2014 #15

Explain Please... Why Are Arabs NOT Semites ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #18

No one is saying arabs aren't semites Kurska Jan 2014 #20

So... You Agree... Anti-Semitic COULD Mean Anti-Arab ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #22

If you divorce it from all historical context. Kurska Jan 2014 #24

Sorry but I have to ask this question. William769 Jan 2014 #36

It doesn't. Unless you want to argue "transphobic" means "fear of change" REP Jan 2014 #47

good grief. you're humiliating yourself. I'm sorry to see it. please stop digging. ack. cali Jan 2014 #105

Arabic is a Semitic language. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #25

And Hebrew Is A Semitic Language... What's Your Point ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #34

My point is that it doesn't matter that Arabic is a Semitic language... Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #37

Um... Mexicans ARE American and they will tell you so. Luminous Animal Jan 2014 #95

Of course they are, that's what I said Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #97

Nailed it...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #29

This is an old and tired deflection from sufrommich Jan 2014 #17

are you jewish? if not, you don't get to redefine what that term means La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #21

And My Jewish Friends Do Not Get To Co-Opt What "Semitic" Means... WillyT Jan 2014 #27

In western Europe, and going back to actually nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #33

Good post 1000words Jan 2014 #38

You welcome nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #39

No, you are simply incorrect as a factual matter on this. People who know more than you geek tragedy Jan 2014 #35

the sum of the parts do not equal the whole. this is very true of linguistics La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2014 #107

this is just semantics Enrique Jan 2014 #26

Ironically... This Started Because Of THIS: (Who's Anti-Semitic NOW (LOL) ???) WillyT Jan 2014 #30

So you're not anti-semantic? Lulz. AverageJoe90 Jan 2014 #50

+1 Aerows Jan 2014 #75

A Different, And Incorrect, Understanding Of The Phrase... "Anti-Semitic"... SidDithers Jan 2014 #31

Antisemitism means anti-Jewish NuclearDem Jan 2014 #40

In The Last Century Yeah... But Trying To Apply Math/Logic To Humans... WillyT Jan 2014 #48

Genuine question, do you support redefining homophobia to only mean a fear of gay people? Kurska Jan 2014 #53

No... I've Met Many Homophobes In My Life... (Former Bouncer) WillyT Jan 2014 #57

Uhhh, relevant because it utilizes the exact same logic as your desire to redefine anti-semitic. Kurska Jan 2014 #61

Because It Seems Y'All Have Appropriated "Anti-Semitic" As Your Own... WillyT Jan 2014 #68

"Y'all"... oh my Kurska Jan 2014 #73

Now I know you were not engaging in revisionism by accident nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #74

To whom is 'y'all' a reference? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #77

Wow... SidDithers Jan 2014 #98

What's the difference? 1000words Jan 2014 #59

Hatred and fear are very distinct emotions. Kurska Jan 2014 #62

Really? 1000words Jan 2014 #63

Yeah, at least that is the latest I heard. Kurska Jan 2014 #66

Fascinating, indeed. 1000words Jan 2014 #67

wouldn't "homophobia" mean fear of sameness, using Willy's logic? foo_bar Jan 2014 #76

Big Fail! unrec. 840high Jan 2014 #71

Definitions aside.... stevil Jan 2014 #79

AS someone who is unabashedly on the side on then side of the Palestinians and against Israel Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #81

Question: Going Back How Far ??? WillyT Jan 2014 #82

I told you, going back to Classical Greece nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #86

different historians have different points of view on these questions. But in general it is thought Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #87

A pretty good summary of accepted scholarship nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #92

you should do a poll. Mosby Jan 2014 #88

Ooooh, how clever and disingenuous you are! Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #90

You're not the first to have chucked out this red herring. Bonobo Jan 2014 #91

Anti-semitic means "anti-Jewish", not "anti all semitic people". As you well know. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #94

it's an ugly game. what's the point? Maybe that those selfish Jews are "appropriating" it. cali Jan 2014 #100

you're remarkably cluesless and disrespectful. the word anti-semitic cali Jan 2014 #99

Isn't this an argument Holocaust deniers give? gollygee Jan 2014 #101

Yup... SidDithers Jan 2014 #102

AND all this talk about "smoking pot" is nonsense jberryhill Jan 2014 #103

A semantics argument useful only in derailing. WatermelonRat Jan 2014 #104

Why are you attempting to dilute the meaning MineralMan Jan 2014 #106

Strongly suggest self-delete (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #108

You know who is arguing over the meaning of anti-semitism? MineralMan Jan 2014 #109

Disgustingly, a jury of your DU peers support you and your anti-semitism. egduj Jan 2014 #110

look, I disagree with Willy completely on this, but he is not anti-semitic cali Jan 2014 #111

Willy is linguistically wrong and I told him so- but you are faking claims of anti-semitism when Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #112

It's not an entirely unreasonable conclusion regarding his motives. WatermelonRat Jan 2014 #113

It is not anti-Semitism - but racism and bigotry against Arab people is not a trivial matter. Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #114