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Adrahil

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32. Agree with this....

Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:24 AM

Jan 2014

.... Putin has no interest in any agreement that brings the EU to his borders. He's trying to rebuild the old Soviet block under a Russian lead "Customs Union." And he's willing to use extortion to do it. Heck I would be surprised to see Russian military intervention to "protect Russian interests."

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What is going on in Ukraine? Who is for what in that country? [View all] JDPriestly Jan 2014 OP

You KNOW google is your friend, right? babylonsister Jan 2014 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Mika Jan 2014 #3

This may help: The Straight Story Jan 2014 #2

the Ukraine isnt a nice place to live. Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #4

The health care in Ukraine is for shit. Jenoch Jan 2014 #17

That is an oddity with regard to food dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #18

I think that the foods price Niceguy1 Jan 2014 #21

I thought the same thing....just read that China bought a bunch of their land to farm for Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #25

there's oil in the Ukraine, too elehhhhna Jan 2014 #38

Party in government is pro-Russia. Demonstrators are pro-EU and want Ukraine to align with Europe. Spider Jerusalem Jan 2014 #5

Right, demonstrators are pissed because Ukraine turned down EU membership Lasher Jan 2014 #6

And take a guess where that "loan" money will go. defacto7 Jan 2014 #7

Reelection. joshcryer Jan 2014 #11

getting big loans from the EU or EU/IMF/ECB troika comes with current EU neoliberal policies as well BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #14

The agricultural west wants to join EU; the industrial east wants to join Russia FarCenter Jan 2014 #8

Difficult to split, no really defined border between ethnic regions. joshcryer Jan 2014 #10

Agree with this.... Adrahil Jan 2014 #32

Good outline BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #12

Yanukovych actually ran on a pro-EU integration platform in the 2010 election. pampango Jan 2014 #22

Without energy the economy collapses; Ukraine runs on oil and gas from Russian pipelines FarCenter Jan 2014 #26

"NATO politics does not allow for neutral countries. You are either with us or against us." pampango Jan 2014 #30

The real choice is not up to the Ukrainian people FarCenter Jan 2014 #31

Perhaps true. But no one has apparently told them that. pampango Jan 2014 #39

That is interesting to me. My grandparents immigrated from the Ukraine sometime around 1920 but Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #27

Look up the book Bloodlands:Europe between Hitler and Stalin Packerowner740 Jan 2014 #9

I'm reccing this thread for the audacity and courage to a) say you don't know and b) ask for help BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #13

All I know is that it's a fine mess and we need to stay the hell out of it. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #15

No, "you" wont stay out. You're perceived to be in the thick of it. To wit: BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #19

It's just as I thought. Some people have to stick their noses (and dollars) into everything. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #24

Here are the three opposition parties: BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #16

The issue seems to have become dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #20

Is Putin MIA on this? randome Jan 2014 #23

Not in this lifetime. Are_grits_groceries Jan 2014 #33

I don't have a lot of time to research these matters to any great extent. randome Jan 2014 #36

No, of course not... Adrahil Jan 2014 #34

Actually, siding with the protesters sounds like it has its shortcomings, as well. randome Jan 2014 #35

Sure it does. As with all things, it's rarely a black and white issue... Adrahil Jan 2014 #37

JDP - You left yourself wide open. But ! It always amazes me that people here Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author TBF Jan 2014 #29