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dipsydoodle

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8. I not advocating anything
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:05 PM
Jan 2014

but present they seem to have little choice.

The trade deal with the EU is currently impractical given that given that they do not the ability to attract the funds necessary for the transition over a number of years which is estimated to be c. 220 billion Euros. That amount is roughly equal to the entire bailout of Greece. Do not fall into the trap however of drawing other comparisons with Greece by way of loans subsequently written down or written off - that just would not happen in the case of the Ukraine whose main debt is owed to Russia.

They have only limited access to funds via bonds whatever other than through Russia. The IMF have already said that any loan would be conditional on a substantial increase in the price their consumers pay for gas which the Ukraine refused. The EU offered a gift of a billion Euros as an inducement which was also turned down.

The opposition have yet to provide any details of how they would manage the situation if they did in fact get into power and then agreed a trade deal with the EU. Mention was made in the early days of the possibility of a triple agreement between the Ukraine , Russia and the EU and maybe that would provide a solution.

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Not exactly a 50-50 split. A plurality do prefer integration with the EU. pampango Jan 2014 #1
Reply #3 was in reponse to you. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #4
You understand that the situation is about far more than just EU membership, right? nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #16
For your education. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #17
Sorry - I misread post. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #19
NP. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #20
We know ? /nt jakeXT Jan 2014 #2
Would take them at least 6 years to join the EU dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #3
So are you advocating they embrace Putin and his band of merry oligarchs? NT Adrahil Jan 2014 #5
I not advocating anything dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #8
It would seem like a multi-lateral agreement would be ideal, but... Adrahil Jan 2014 #9
It would be a long, frustrating journey with no guarantee of success. pampango Jan 2014 #6
Ultimately if they were to join the EU it would be conditional on them also joining the Euro. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #10
PLEASE READ "Support for the protesters" translates into support for these three parties: BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #11
Is one of those the Right whatever ? dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #12
They're all right, and Svoboda far right, yes. BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #13
I do know that the red & blacks are the nationalist party dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #15
Ah yes, Sektor. I remembered reading about red & black on the Guardian, I think BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #29
as opposed to the dictator who has imposed martial law upon them? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #14
Ridiculous oversimplification of the situation. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #18
the parties that kerry "stands with" frwrfpos Jan 2014 #21
Kerry is NOT standing with any parties there - he is simply standing with the people karynnj Jan 2014 #23
Kerry and the US need to stay the f out of Ukraine frwrfpos Jan 2014 #24
Even in this RUSSIAN source, Kerry is speaking of international diplomacy karynnj Jan 2014 #22
The suggestion of a triple agreement ws mentioned in the early days. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #27
I wonder if this MIGHT be the best circumstances to do that in generations karynnj Jan 2014 #28
U.S. stood by the people of Egypt, too. 1000words Jan 2014 #25
Most of the U.S. does not support Islamic law seveneyes Jan 2014 #26
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