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17. Obama's stance reflects the Fatal Contradiction in too many centrist Democrats

Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:45 PM

Jan 2014

They claim to be on the side of average people and the disenfranchised. And they talk a better game than the GOP. And in some ways their actions are better too.

But when it comes to the systemic problems that have created this mess, they are just as bad as Republicans.

They are willing to try to tweak the edges (if Republicans allow them to)

But when it comes to any fundamental changes that would upset the Oligarchs but help The People....They are on the side of the Oligarchs.

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The Nation: Who Backs the TPP and a �NAFTA on Steroids�? ALEC [View all] cali Jan 2014 OP

Well, there's a shocker. Kick! nt stillwaiting Jan 2014 #1

Not really strange company if you think about what he's doing. Lasher Jan 2014 #2

Who doesn't think TPP is all that big a deal? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #3

Krugman focuses on the trade aspects of it- which are not the bulk of the problem cali Jan 2014 #4

I did read the letters that followed that "foolish piece" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #5

I've provided it over and over again. all you have to do is type in cali tpp cali Jan 2014 #6

That's very, er ... accommodating of you ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #9

'wiping the drool off the chins...?" MineralMan Jan 2014 #25

Krugman really underperformed there BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #11

Thanks, I'll look into Moyer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #13

Thanks - listening now... polichick Jan 2014 #29

Yves and Commenters on "Naked Capitalism" have been after Krugman to KoKo Jan 2014 #43

Krugman concedes that he'll be doing some homework on the issue Babel_17 Jan 2014 #10

Good on Krugman BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #12

Thanks.n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #14

BINGO...It imposes laws that people would not want if they knew Armstead Jan 2014 #18

^^ this ^^ and I might add, De Gucht went entirely "NWO in your face" BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #41

I'm glad he decided to "do some homework" pa28 Jan 2014 #39

Yes...there was a lot of Progressive Push Back on Krugman for not doing TPP KoKo Jan 2014 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author antigop Jan 2014 #15

No he was wriong on NAFTA in the 90's and he's wrong now Armstead Jan 2014 #16

Bipartisan free trade should end because Alec supports it Progressive dog Jan 2014 #7

And here's the list of companies backing the TPP BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #8

Too much money at work here. This tells me it's going to happen. Auggie Jan 2014 #22

Can you provide us with a list of unions and environmental groups that support the TPP? Enthusiast Jan 2014 #24

I heard the Bankster union (called International Bank of Settlements) is pro BelgianMadCow Jan 2014 #42

That adds up to a lot of bribes..er...campaign contributions. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2014 #34

+10000000 woo me with science Feb 2014 #45

Obama's stance reflects the Fatal Contradiction in too many centrist Democrats Armstead Jan 2014 #17

A-One perfect summation Populist_Prole Jan 2014 #21

+1 a whole bunch.......nt Enthusiast Jan 2014 #23

Which makes them lying liars just like RepubliCons. polichick Jan 2014 #33

He's been saving his best running shoes for ALEC jsr Jan 2014 #19

We can stop the TPP if we make a **** load of noise. iandhr Jan 2014 #20

Which requires the peole who either buy into the "free trade" horseshit or don't care, to... Armstead Jan 2014 #27

the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal polynomial Jan 2014 #26

Sen Wyden Thinks TPP Can Be Great! fredamae Jan 2014 #28

Not good news about Wyden- he's about to take over the Senate Finance Committee cali Jan 2014 #30

Sadly-it seems to fredamae Jan 2014 #32

Wyden & DeFazio. bvar22 Jan 2014 #36

DeFazio is one of the most vocal members of Congress Against the tpp cali Jan 2014 #37

Yes. fredamae Jan 2014 #38

Between the NSA surveillance and the TPP, Obama is working against the base of Democrats JDPriestly Jan 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Jan 2014 #35

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #40