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bornskeptic

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15. Medicare's single-payer now. Why does it cost$11,000 per person/year?

Sun Mar 18, 2012, 03:05 PM

Mar 2012

That's not even counting out of pocket costs and Medigap premiums, and many Seniors on Medicare end up in Medicaid as well. The truth is that countries in Europe with mandatory insurance systems ( including Germany, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands) don't have significantly higher costs per capita than the single payer countries in Europe (including the UK, Spain, Italy and Portugal). Japan, where most people other than the unemployed and Seniors are privately insured, has far lower per person costs than any of them. The problem of healthcare costs in the United States has very little to do with the insurance companies, and it can't be fixed by turning their business over to the government. It's a hugely complicated problem, which no simple little trick is going to solve.

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"SINGLE PAYER" - The simplest solution! [View all] kpete Mar 2012 OP

Right on! earthside Mar 2012 #1

Now, Now - What Would Good Republicans Do Without Insurance Industry Campaign Contributions? cantbeserious Mar 2012 #2

Healthcare industry contributions go to both parties. obxhead Mar 2012 #23

No Argument - Which Party Benefits The Most From A Profit-Driven System? cantbeserious Mar 2012 #28

The 1% party obxhead Mar 2012 #40

Two-thirds of Americans want single-payer MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #3

We need a PSA on triangulation: what is is and how it works. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #4

Wikipedia has the start of an explanation MannyGoldstein Mar 2012 #6

And who does this eventually benefit? shcrane71 Mar 2012 #9

YES! ProgressiveATL Mar 2012 #5

K&R nt abelenkpe Mar 2012 #7

I've been beating this drum along with many others in the Cleita Mar 2012 #8

Jesus Cosmocat Mar 2012 #10

They only needed two votes in the Senate to pass it. Cleita Mar 2012 #11

Brown didn't offer any support, just said he wouldn't veto. Sheesh. SunSeeker Mar 2012 #37

You got recordings. How gutless of them. I actually got people and one Congressman's office was Cleita Mar 2012 #38

This maddens more so much Cosmocat Mar 2012 #42

I'm hoping this war on women Politicalboi Mar 2012 #31

Awesome. k/r deacon Mar 2012 #12

Part of the solution to medicare funding is single payer on point Mar 2012 #13

Medicare's single-payer now. Why does it cost$11,000 per person/year? bornskeptic Mar 2012 #15

nonsense. It is the overall cost of our health care keeps going up and of course that has to do CTyankee Mar 2012 #17

Exactly! n/t sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #19

In Germany and Switzerland, the insurance companies must provide basic on a nonprofirt basis. bornskeptic Mar 2012 #27

from what I have read the private for profit health insurance in most of these countries is for CTyankee Mar 2012 #29

The ACA DOES Limit Insurance Company Profits AndyTiedye Mar 2012 #39

Thanks for reminding me of that. I wish more people were aware, as you are. CTyankee Mar 2012 #43

I wish there was a politcal party that supported this. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #14

Good post, I agree. The 'middlemen' provide nothing in the way of HC. All they do is sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #18

There is. kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #26

Tommy Douglas, New Socialist Party, leader talks about Mouseland. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #16

Too bad that the conservatives have convinced a large segment of the population that free market is andym Mar 2012 #20

Except that they don't practice free market. Cleita Mar 2012 #22

YUP! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #21

I know we're supposed to be encouraging, and Single Payer would sure help a lot of folks (99%), Trillo Mar 2012 #24

There is no alternative. kenny blankenship Mar 2012 #25

Not true, there is even a simpler one - no payer. Fool Count Mar 2012 #30

but- but what would Organised Crime do for a living? we took away Prohibition and they stlsaxman Mar 2012 #33

The GOP would NEVER go for it because it helps people.... NorthCarolina Mar 2012 #32

As a Canadian, I have to tell you it's a no-brainer. Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #34

This graphic simplifies it for even the slowest of fish Kennah Mar 2012 #35

Beautifully illustrated! midnight Mar 2012 #36

Yes! n/t. denem Mar 2012 #41