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In reply to the discussion: Lawmakers Consider Preventing ALL Marriage In Oklahoma [View all]Major Nikon
(36,925 posts)39. That wasn't my claim
Here it is again for the cheap seats:
Not all "libertarian" ideas are nonsense. Reference Noam Chomsky for further reading.
Labeling something as "libertarian" and then dismissing it on that basis alone is intellectual laziness. I don't know that Chomsky has written anything specifically about marriage law. He does believe all authoritarian power needs to be justified. I'm not convinced you are all that familiar with Chomsky.
authority, unless justified, is inherently illegitimate and that the burden of proof is on those in authority. If this burden can't be met, the authority in question should be dismantled.
-- Noam Chomsky
I'm pretty sure I do know what that word means. When in doubt, I derive my definitions from the dictionary rather than from the people I meet.
au·thor·i·ty noun
: the power to give orders or make decisions : the power or right to direct or control someone or something
: the power to give orders or make decisions : the power or right to direct or control someone or something
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/authority
There are few things more authoritarian than telling people who they can and cannot marry and who they can and cannot divorce. I'm somewhat baffled as to why you'd think otherwise regardless of what those you meet think.
As far as throwing around words without meaning, privatizationn or socialization in terms of public policy refers to economic systems and the means of production, not legal concepts like government sanctioned marriage. The idea that marriage can be "privatized" is rubbish. It was never socialized to begin with nor can it be unless you consider the potential of children as economic production. I don't.
Now if you want to continue on your line questioning my literacy, or claiming something won't work when it already does, or misrepresenting my statements, then we're done here, or at least I am. If you want to attempt to justify why the government has an inherent need to authorize marriage I'd be glad to listen. Otherwise you're simply trying to contradict me with no reason as to why and I have no interest in pursuing that with you any longer.
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Many people have tried to make this argument, few of them have really thought it through
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#15
The tax code is modified continuously by every legislative session in every state in the union
Major Nikon
Jan 2014
#17
You don't seem to be able to recognize the difference between private and governmental entities
Major Nikon
Jan 2014
#28
Marriage law is not private, marriages require a state issued marriage license under current law.
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#31
Well if the law were changed as you suggest it should be you would see it is not quite so simple
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#34
Link me to a Noam Chomsky piece in which he calls for the privatization of marriage
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#36
As if it wasn't clear enough I already explained to you why I mentioned Chomsky
Major Nikon
Jan 2014
#46
No they do not have the authority to deny a license for "all sorts of reasons"
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#63
I think most people reading this thread will see who is intellectually bankrupt, and it is not me
Bjorn Against
Jan 2014
#67
You're not married, are you? There are health and financial issues also to consider.
WinkyDink
Jan 2014
#19