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71. I will never support anyone who supported those horrible wars. And I know I am not alone. Even if it

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:39 AM

Jan 2014

was not a moral issue, a matter of conscience, the decision to pour money into those cruel, brutal wars which took so many human lives and destroyed so many others (how do they sleep at night?) was disastrous for this country in every way. As you pointed out, with the obscene amounts of money going to pay for them, most of it corrupt, going into the hands of corrupt military contractors, there was no money to pay for what the American people really need, jobs, homes, medical care, education, and most cruel of all, for the Veterans they use to do the dirty work.

But we have also lost our status in the world. America has no moral authority anymore. Anyone who cared about this country would never, ever have supported those travesties. And they didn't. Only the Corporate Warmongers and the blindly partisan Bush supporters, many of whom have finally woken up now, too late, were supporters of those terrible wars.

I am being threatened in this thread for not supporting Hillary, can you believe that? She is not even the nominee but we are being bullied into supporting her. Nice tactics from her supporters, guaranteed to fail. But instructive as to who supports her and even more reason not to.

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It's getting harder to post about current news... [View all] fadedrose Jan 2014 OP

She's more status quo. defacto7 Jan 2014 #1

I just noticed that Pretzel_Warrior (the post right under yours) won't be with us for a couple weeks Electric Monk Jan 2014 #30

That was an unfortunate hide. wtf Whisp Jan 2014 #32

Agreed. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #35

I agree with you Whisp! sheshe2 Jan 2014 #40

I also agree it's a bad hide. defacto7 Jan 2014 #42

I agree seattledo Jan 2014 #76

I think the name calling and mockery, which were the full content of that post Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #85

Agreed. I'm no Hillary fan, but the fact that post was hidden is a fucking joke. Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #116

Lots of burned bridges. If you act like a total ass, people remember. morningfog Jan 2014 #120

Which makes the whole system vindictive, silly, juvenile and pathetic... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #134

I have long had an issue with it. morningfog Jan 2014 #145

Agreed...and it's not just with spiteful people going after certain posters... Drunken Irishman Jan 2014 #146

It has nothing to do with who he is a fan of, I suspect. morningfog Jan 2014 #118

I have no recollection of that poster being a disruptor. Whisp Jan 2014 #121

He regularly engages in personal attacks, albeit usually worse than this one. morningfog Jan 2014 #125

I think each post should be judged on its own merit and Poster History shouldn't come Whisp Jan 2014 #128

You know it means they had 4 other hides correct? n-t Logical Jan 2014 #136

I also know the jury system sucks. Whisp Jan 2014 #137

Admins locked a lot more posts than jury's do did. Jury's let too much slide. n-t Logical Jan 2014 #139

I agree sad that that could be alerted on and actually hidden. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #124

LOL, really? It was rude for FFS he had 4 others. n-t Logical Jan 2014 #135

lol. Whisp Jan 2014 #138

Because I don't agree with you and you have no real argument so are sarcastic? n-t Logical Jan 2014 #140

Just proves the OP title that much more. For truedelphi Jan 2014 #63

First one to have the notoriety of twice being banned under the new rules. morningfog Jan 2014 #119

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #2

I'm a bit of a rebel southerncrone Jan 2014 #3

the 'no need to apply' is horseshit like it was in 2008 Whisp Jan 2014 #36

I hope Elizabeth Warren will run. southerncrone Jan 2014 #141

I hope so too, and there is a chance she may Whisp Jan 2014 #142

I like hearing she might! southerncrone Jan 2014 #143

I am not a big HC supporter, ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #4

I'm not either but attacking fellow DU'ers and going into their stuff to KoKo Jan 2014 #20

Yeah. That's not cool. nt ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #75

Seems kinda like nixon and his enemies list. Be careful or they might add you. OoOOooOoooOoo Drew Richards Jan 2014 #81

Democraticunderground.NSA ? L0oniX Jan 2014 #94

You have OPTIONS. One option is to HIDE THREADS that don't interest you. MADem Jan 2014 #5

My understanding is that the OP is about news programs rather than the DU Fumesucker Jan 2014 #6

Concur, seems it's about talking heads. joshcryer Jan 2014 #8

I invite your attention to posts nine and twelve. MADem Jan 2014 #13

There is "some history with this individual"...WTF? KoKo Jan 2014 #21

Excuse the hell out of me. MADem Jan 2014 #38

No, this is about posting on DU, and not the first time this poster has made this gripe. MADem Jan 2014 #9

Again, pushing the remote button is evidently what the OP is doing Fumesucker Jan 2014 #11

This is an old saw. Believe me--I know how to read, and I've seen this shopworn theme before. MADem Jan 2014 #12

"You have options" BainsBane Jan 2014 #16

It's an appropriate comment to a META thread. You have options, too, you know. nt MADem Jan 2014 #18

I am going to start calling you Columbo. Good job. And, what's odd to me are the post Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #17

You can go back to DU 2, and see much, much more of the same. MADem Jan 2014 #27

the magistrate rules! madrchsod Jan 2014 #64

I haven't seen her about lately--I hope everything is OK. MADem Jan 2014 #68

Don't see much, if anything about WHY she doesn't like her which is curious. I agree Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #88

No idea--but it's sustained. nt MADem Jan 2014 #91

MADem ....sorry this looks like "stalking" to me of this poster.... KoKo Jan 2014 #19

It's not 'stalking' when the same poster, day in, day out, year in, year out, since 2006, MADem Jan 2014 #33

JUST IGNORE...TRASH THREAD...or Report to MIRT....this is getting OTT! KoKo Jan 2014 #39

Some people like to have information, defacto7 Jan 2014 #46

Stop telling me what I "seem to be saying" when I am making it very clear what I AM,in fact, saying. MADem Jan 2014 #50

where in the rules do we all have to come from a neutral perspective? Whisp Jan 2014 #49

Who said there was a "rule" that we did? MADem Jan 2014 #53

Thank you, J. Edgar. PassingFair Jan 2014 #109

Right Back Atcha! MADem Jan 2014 #111

That's what I understood from the OP. Faded rose said that she she couldn't stand to LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #10

My TV came with a wonderful gadget that allows me to change the channel or turn it off altogether. Beacool Jan 2014 #59

I guess trash thread is just for us little people BainsBane Jan 2014 #15

Have to agree that "Trash Thread" and "Ignore" is just for the Peasant DU'ers KoKo Jan 2014 #24

It doesn't suprise me in the least BainsBane Jan 2014 #47

Yes, of course, that's it, precisely. MADem Jan 2014 #37

To tell you the truth, I want to hear everyone's opinion defacto7 Jan 2014 #45

Fine--ignore the filtering then. You're one person, so you're speaking for yourself. nt. MADem Jan 2014 #48

Oh, I always speak for myself.... defacto7 Jan 2014 #51

The OP wasn't talking about the internet, s/he was talking about the news. And I agree. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #56

You can read what I wrote, or not. MADem Jan 2014 #60

Yes, just like last time. She was a 'sure winner'. But there are Democrats who opposed all of Bush's sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #72

I unfortunately had the TV on the day that Congress approved truedelphi Jan 2014 #66

I will never support anyone who supported those horrible wars. And I know I am not alone. Even if it sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #71

the boarding up was partly due to Bill Clinton being shared father in that mysterious 'derivative' Whisp Jan 2014 #99

And Chelsea became a Hedge Fund Manager, truedelphi Jan 2014 #105

''those who support wars simply cannot claim to support women''. Whisp Jan 2014 #98

And so do you...but instead you whip gestapo tactics to attack another that you disagree with... Drew Richards Jan 2014 #123

I'm exercising one of my options--you might want to exercise yours if you don't like MADem Jan 2014 #147

Don't watch tv news. If you do, understand that it's just entertainment. LuvNewcastle Jan 2014 #7

Naturally, she voted for the Iraq war BainsBane Jan 2014 #14

I'm Ready For Hillary otohara Jan 2014 #22

+++++++1! nt MADem Jan 2014 #34

Oh it's a man / woman thing for you huh ...nice L0oniX Jan 2014 #95

hillary clinton is a hawk frwrfpos Jan 2014 #23

She is that... MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #44

she should send Chelsea to fight in her next war of choice. Whisp Jan 2014 #129

I will bet $100 right now she is not the nominee rufus dog Jan 2014 #25

Please name others who are as likely to get the nomination. Loudly Jan 2014 #26

No friggen clue rufus dog Jan 2014 #28

There was not shortage last time and there won't be this time. Whisp Jan 2014 #41

I hope you are right. truedelphi Jan 2014 #67

We will get whatever TPTB give us and right now that is Clinton. L0oniX Jan 2014 #93

+ struggle4progress Jan 2014 #43

You make a good point. ... spin Jan 2014 #29

Don't worry, she'll fuck up again like 2008. Whisp Jan 2014 #31

I think they are making a mistake to push her on the voters like this. It is having the opposite sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #52

Every poll I have seen shows that she has the support of a big majority of totodeinhere Jan 2014 #55

No Democrat I know wants her to run. Push polls don't count and there is no one else running right sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #57

There are several scientific polls showing Clinton way ahead. And they are not push polls. totodeinhere Jan 2014 #62

Here is a CNN poll on possible nominees for 08, from June of 06. Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #84

Yes as I already said it is early and any poll taken now doesn't mean that much. totodeinhere Jan 2014 #90

I think the polls are more an indicator of brand recognition than support. TheKentuckian Jan 2014 #100

And thank goodness for that!!!!! Beacool Jan 2014 #61

I believe it is having the opposite effect too. Clinton Fatigue Whisp Jan 2014 #97

There are a lot of good people including some on DU who support Clinton totodeinhere Jan 2014 #54

Let me put your mind at ease. Beacool Jan 2014 #58

You are correct. But on the other hand posters who claim that they will not totodeinhere Jan 2014 #65

I know, but I had enough of the constant attacks. Beacool Jan 2014 #69

Really? She is NOT the nominee and the voters have a say, or has that gone by the wayside also and sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #70

I am not bullying or threatening anyone. I don't even support Clinton for the totodeinhere Jan 2014 #73

And I will repeat what I said. I will never support her whether she is the nominee or not. Do not sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #74

Many many many good liberals and progressives have already left du2 and du3 over this issue. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #82

I agree that we should be concentrating on the 2014 midterms right now. If the totodeinhere Jan 2014 #86

Too bad Democrats overwhelming endorsed and voted for Chris Christie in NJ sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #96

Hillary, if you bothered to pay attention, has repeatedly said that we should focus on 2014. Beacool Jan 2014 #101

there is nothing progressive about the TPP and Hillary supports it. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #77

You can either tell me or not because this is not about me. But I think we need to keep totodeinhere Jan 2014 #87

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jan 2014 #102

go ahead. Make fun, intimidate, bully. It doesn't matter. You don't get to fill out my ballot. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #106

As I have kept saying, I don't care who anyone here votes for in 2016. Beacool Jan 2014 #107

Thanks for this post I've also thought that Kerry would and has been a much more trublu992 Jan 2014 #78

White water. Travel gate. Vince foster. Rose law firm shall I go on? Hilary clinton? Hellz no! Drew Richards Jan 2014 #79

I find it amazing that we are reading right wing talking points about against Hillary Clinton totodeinhere Jan 2014 #89

Because some people here hate the Clintons so much that they don't care Beacool Jan 2014 #104

Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #112

Whatever, dude.............. Beacool Jan 2014 #113

Insulting a fellow DU member's intelligence is not cool. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2014 #115

And reading comprehension is fundamental you should try it. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #126

he is not the one who needs it Skittles Jan 2014 #130

Umm skittles reread my post no where do I agree or advocate the republican opinion I only Drew Richards Jan 2014 #131

What dont like is her corporate policies and vote on the war. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #133

now you are replying to yourself Skittles Jan 2014 #144

Then you're not nearly as bright as you think you are..this is a discussion board not a Clinton boar Drew Richards Jan 2014 #110

Why are you repeating Republican talking points???? Beacool Jan 2014 #103

Why am I bringing all these up? You don't think this will all be brought up again if she runs. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #108

If you read some of my other comments you will see that I am not even supporting totodeinhere Jan 2014 #114

No I am a political realist..this crap will be brought back any time she runs for office or were Drew Richards Jan 2014 #117

We,ve had enough donco Jan 2014 #80

There's a whole wide world of current news that doesn't involve US politics... Violet_Crumble Jan 2014 #83

Really? Dems want to keep going with the 3rd way corporate centrist shit? L0oniX Jan 2014 #92

Seems to be getting worse on here instead of better...and shes not even running yet. Drew Richards Jan 2014 #127

K&R blackspade Jan 2014 #122

You better get busy ... or you'll be complaining about President Hillary in 2016. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #132