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16. More nonsense.

Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:07 PM

Jan 2014

"He only 'increased' the rate to 20% if you ignore the fact that the rate was automatically gonna go to 39% if ATRA wasn't passed."

Again, the dividend rate is back to 39.6 percent the qualified dividend is up from 15 percent to 20 percent, and both are subject to the ACA tax increase.

The "honesty FAIL" is your misinformation about the tax increases because you wanted no action, which would have increased taxes on the bottom 90 percent.

I guess you would have considered that a tax increase for the rich, huh?

Ludicrous.

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Krugman: Obama and the One Percent [View all] ProSense Jan 2014 OP

tax rates apply to adjusted dollars. The tax loop holes greatly impact actual taxed dollars Herself Jan 2014 #1

Welcome to DU. I was just ProSense Jan 2014 #2

Uh oh, I suspect Krugman is now going to get thrown under the bus for praising Obama. stevenleser Jan 2014 #3

it isn't about "praising Obama" hfojvt Jan 2014 #5

What the hell are you talking about? ProSense Jan 2014 #8

failing to mention the richest 5% IS the lie hfojvt Jan 2014 #12

Your comment is pure nonsense. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #13

and your snark is a boojum* hfojvt Jan 2014 #36

Snarks, and boojums, come from Lewis Carroll's 'The Hunting of the Snark' muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #50

that's where Zelazny (and Speicus) got it hfojvt Jan 2014 #79

So you're calling Occupy Wall Street liars for emphasizing on the top 1%. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #27

no, I call them fools hfojvt Jan 2014 #35

so, anyone who doesn't declare class war on the upper middle class is a fraud in your estimation nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #48

I'm sure Professor Krugman will be heartbroken to learn that hardcore geek tragedy Jan 2014 #26

more ad hominem hfojvt Jan 2014 #37

you invented your own personal rubicon and pretended that Obama promised geek tragedy Jan 2014 #49

I love it when Obama supporters hfojvt Jan 2014 #72

you're the only one baying about how we need to stick it to teachers. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #73

stick it to teachers? hfojvt Jan 2014 #77

Say, whose idea was the "making work pay" credit? geek tragedy Jan 2014 #81

back to those ponies, eh? hfojvt Jan 2014 #88

Heh, classic ODS. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #89

and then President Obama let it expire hfojvt Jan 2014 #92

No, CONGRESS let it expire. Your psychological need to blame Obama geek tragedy Jan 2014 #94

well somewhere in there hfojvt Jan 2014 #96

I guess you could have cut a better deal by waving your Internet magic stick geek tragedy Jan 2014 #97

LOL LukeFL Jan 2014 #103

More nonsense ProSense Jan 2014 #82

again with the false dichotomy hfojvt Jan 2014 #90

This is ProSense Jan 2014 #91

no, it is a perfect example hfojvt Jan 2014 #93

It can't be a "perfect example" ProSense Jan 2014 #95

Except for ProSense Jan 2014 #10

If what he says is true then..... blackspade Jan 2014 #30

/\ THIS /\ nt octoberlib Jan 2014 #34

If by calling him a Cha Jan 2014 #41

Did Krgman switch busses? JHB Jan 2014 #42

more pro-Obama bullsh*t from Kruggers hfojvt Jan 2014 #4

There ProSense Jan 2014 #7

WTF? "Krugman, you are just a liar". That's the lie. jazzimov Jan 2014 #21

no, it is a simple fact hfojvt Jan 2014 #38

Diagnosis: ODS morphing into KDS. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #25

poor little plutocrats Vattel Jan 2014 #6

example, Alice Walton hfojvt Jan 2014 #9

Math FAIL ProSense Jan 2014 #11

honesty FAIL hfojvt Jan 2014 #15

More nonsense. ProSense Jan 2014 #16

your comment makes no sense n/t hfojvt Jan 2014 #85

Yes, it does, but ProSense Jan 2014 #86

For an "honesty FAIL", look in the mirror. nt jazzimov Jan 2014 #22

that's kinda MY line hfojvt Jan 2014 #74

K&R Whisp Jan 2014 #14

Don't forget ProSense Jan 2014 #18

Kick for ProSense Jan 2014 #17

I'm kicking your thread, ProSense. dawg Jan 2014 #19

Thanks n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #20

I wondered where the screaming and gnashing sounds were coming from Number23 Jan 2014 #23

. ProSense Jan 2014 #24

I wasn't serious. ProSense Jan 2014 #28

Oh, you know that. Number23 Jan 2014 #29

K&R!! Cha Jan 2014 #31

Sadly, Kraugman has become a full time cheerleader for this administration. Bummer. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #32

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #33

.... Cha Jan 2014 #40

Ouch! Shoot that messenger! Times are tough when Nobel-prize winning liberal economist has to pampango Jan 2014 #39

What is there to disagree with? Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #44

rule of practice: when one person argues with numbers, and the other responds geek tragedy Jan 2014 #47

Numbers get you nowhere with republicans (one reason they hate Krugman). pampango Jan 2014 #67

+1 Cha Jan 2014 #101

Ha ha. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #43

Krugman is a Millionaire seveneyes Jan 2014 #45

FDR was a millionaire. It seems possible to be a millionaire and a liberal at the same time. n/t pampango Jan 2014 #75

FDR had power to change things for people seveneyes Jan 2014 #76

So liberal economists are judged by different rules than liberal politicians. Got it. pampango Jan 2014 #78

It'd be interesting to see the numbers for farther back... JHB Jan 2014 #46

Isn't that just on earned income? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #51

No, ProSense Jan 2014 #52

So the fed tax rate under Obama more than doubled for the wealthiest? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #54

Do you really ProSense Jan 2014 #55

No, it simply supports my contention that it would have to have roughly doubled. nt MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #57

What "would have to have roughly doubled"? ProSense Jan 2014 #59

What values do you see on that chart MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #60

What does that have to do with the OP? n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #62

Either my writing sucks this morning MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #63

Actually, ProSense Jan 2014 #65

I have to say ProSense Jan 2014 #56

No, I'm confident that he's correct in what he said MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #58

Wait ProSense Jan 2014 #61

I'm confident that he's not making things up MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #64

What ProSense Jan 2014 #66

So what is - and is not - included in "Average Federal Tax Rate"? MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #68

Ah, ProSense Jan 2014 #69

I guess those questions are difficult to answer. MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #70

No, ProSense Jan 2014 #71

a mere mortal like yourself hfojvt Jan 2014 #100

Ha! Damn fine catch Number23 Jan 2014 #98

I have them at 22% hfojvt Jan 2014 #99

Impossible, Obama never does anything right Democat Jan 2014 #53

But he didn't tax them enough, so he SUCKS!!! riqster Jan 2014 #80

What about President Obama wanting to fast track the TPP MrsKirkley Jan 2014 #83

Obamacare Will Help Reduce Income Inequality ProSense Jan 2014 #84

This is why Sheldon and the Kochs hate him so much. eom Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #87

Kick! n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #102