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marions ghost

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83. CUMULATIVE
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:24 PM
Jan 2014

As we all follow this issue in hopes of definitive science someday, I think there's one word to remember:

CUMULATIVE

Biologists vs Physicists = is where this rests at the moment.

The jury is out. We are talking about chronic long term exposure. There has to be the political will to do studies on this. Here is a website for nurses that calls for studies in 2013, especially re. children:

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/806804_8

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Ten-year longitudinal studies that are not sponsored in any way by telecommunication services or manufacturers of cell phones need to be conducted on adults and children to learn definitively the relationship between RF, cell phone use, and primary brain tumor. These studies have to be designed to obtain precise data that include radiation emission from the cell phone, amount of time (both call length and frequency) the phone is used, which side of the brain is exposed, age of the subject, and radiation exposure. The protocol should contain an ethically sensitive clause that if early results indicate a connection between RF and brain cancer, the subjects will be informed, and the study stopped to decrease risk to participants. A trial case study comparing patients who have cancer with healthy patients using phone log data in which only the subject is using the phone is needed (Mukherjee, 2011). Consumers need to be educated about the most recent findings.

Nurses are a particularly valuable resource for educating children and parents about health-related concerns. Nurses in clinics and hospitals attended by parents and children can create educational wall posters that display how RF exposure can be reduced. School nurses can also post information about RF on display boards and be available should parents and children request further information. As trusted professionals, nurses are in a good position to communicate to older children, teens, and parents about RF emissions from cell phone antennae and what steps can be taken to reduce this exposure and still benefit from the technology. Using a Bluetooth or the earpiece reduces the amount of radiation to the brain; the radiation effect drops exponentially as the antenna moves away from the head. Even using a speakerphone several inches away from the head reduces exposure significantly. Text messaging is another option because the cell phone is held away from the head while in use. Nurses can become politically active and request their legislators to craft legislation that provides warnings and protects children from radiation exposure as France, Toronto, India, and Israel have done. Through their specialty nursing associations, nurses can create position statements and submit them for publication in professional journals and lay publications. Nurses can encourage their professional organizations to advocate for research on this topic and participate in research if the opportunity becomes available.

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I almost never use the speaker to the ear anymore, but not convinced that solves the problem... hlthe2b Jan 2014 #1
Since we are both home, 85% of the time, we no longer truedelphi Jan 2014 #4
Dubious, but the jury's still out. longship Jan 2014 #2
The jury is out, re: call phones and iPad and other devices truedelphi Jan 2014 #3
I'll stand by my post, as apparently does Scientific American. longship Jan 2014 #5
I deliberately chose an article that was close to yr world view. truedelphi Jan 2014 #6
But the basic science does not back up that claim. longship Jan 2014 #10
Bluetooth runs in the 2.4Ghz range just like Wifi and microwave ovens Paulie Jan 2014 #7
Simple solution JJChambers Jan 2014 #8
Interestng to note how many people will so quickly dismiss the findings of Dr Debra Davis, truedelphi Jan 2014 #12
Argument from authority fallacy. CFLDem Jan 2014 #27
I'm sorry, but this is bullshit. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #9
And how well did that "cigaretesarehealthy.gov" site work out for so many people? truedelphi Jan 2014 #13
Are you trying to work every logical fallacy into one post? LeftyMom Jan 2014 #14
And thanks so much for contributing your truedelphi Jan 2014 #17
I posted information from the National Institutes of Health. That's reputable and definitive. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #19
In case you missed it, that was an appeal to authority. X_Digger Jan 2014 #20
Science does care about claimant's credentials - if you're not a peer, you don't get peer reviewed. FarCenter Jan 2014 #21
Not as it relates to a claim- it has to stand on its own. Claimant's creds don't add to credibility. X_Digger Jan 2014 #22
You're using an article from Joseph Mercola... SidDithers Jan 2014 #47
Peer reviewed studies -- Heat may be the mechanism KurtNYC Jan 2014 #48
You're misstating the result of that study so badly I hardly know where to start. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #61
You ignored the French/Penny study on HSPS KurtNYC Jan 2014 #63
I ignored it because it's not even a study, and it's been debunked. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #64
Of course it is a "study" and the matter is still under investigation as I stated KurtNYC Jan 2014 #81
My cousin the oncologist marions ghost Jan 2014 #79
I saw a video where cell phones made popcorn pop. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #11
you mean "appeared to make" popcorn? Schema Thing Jan 2014 #23
You need to be more skeptical Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #51
;-) aikoaiko Jan 2014 #55
Doh! Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #56
My cell phone turned me into a newt. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #58
I hope you posted that to youtube. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #59
I have proof: Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #75
lol aikoaiko Jan 2014 #76
my husband used a cell phone for work. he also used a landline. he DesertFlower Jan 2014 #15
Condolences to you for what you have gone through. truedelphi Jan 2014 #16
"there is not a measurable way to say EXACTLY what causes anything"? Seriously? These reply was uppityperson Jan 2014 #33
What I meant to say,is that in this day and age, if a person gets cancer, truedelphi Jan 2014 #39
thank you. we were together almost 41 years. DesertFlower Jan 2014 #34
My cousin's partner was a high powered businessman. He was an early adapter to MADem Jan 2014 #28
john was on the move too. he worked for IBM DesertFlower Jan 2014 #32
Oh dear. MADem Jan 2014 #38
Remove the battery if you can, put it in one of these and then put it in the microwave oven FarCenter Jan 2014 #18
You're linking us with two links to the same woo site. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #24
Just as Elizabeth Warren has no control over whether her speech on some policy she truedelphi Jan 2014 #41
Even worse, the original article is from mercola.com, from June 2012...nt SidDithers Jan 2014 #46
You are a demonstration of our poor educational system. jeff47 Jan 2014 #25
Thread win. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #29
Damn. Orrex Jan 2014 #31
Dammit! I'm never opening the blinds again! arcane1 Jan 2014 #49
You forgot to prepare for "science doesn't know everything!". Silent3 Jan 2014 #80
Oh also women should be encouraged to NOT carry their cell phone shedevil69taz Jan 2014 #26
I carried mine in my pocket and now one of my testicles is bigger NightWatcher Jan 2014 #30
Well, damn. Switch to the other pocket now. uppityperson Jan 2014 #35
Maybe you're just standing closer to that one, so it looks bigger. Orrex Jan 2014 #36
OP does not know basic HS physics. Improvise Jan 2014 #37
Oh for Pete's sake - truedelphi Jan 2014 #40
When I was in the Air Force we used to sleep behind the 50KW transmitters-4 of them. hobbit709 Jan 2014 #42
Yes, it's all about science, and not money jeff47 Jan 2014 #60
Woo in GD again... SidDithers Jan 2014 #43
This at the bottom of the page on the link tells me all I need to know about credibility hobbit709 Jan 2014 #44
Yup. And the credulous lap this shit up... SidDithers Jan 2014 #45
I actually PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #65
Classes in critical thinking and logic should be required in every high school... SidDithers Jan 2014 #67
Yep PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #71
I wholeheartedly disagree. arcane1 Jan 2014 #77
Even better... SidDithers Jan 2014 #78
Again? Ohio Joe Jan 2014 #68
Remember when mercola got laughed out of GD?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #69
I can see Republicans falling for stupid shit like this, but Democrats? Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #72
I've been preaching this for YEARS! Watch this short video! snooper2 Jan 2014 #50
Again, you need to be more skeptical Kelvin Mace Jan 2014 #53
Cell Phone Radiation messed me up.. snooper2 Jan 2014 #57
This is REAL! Listen to Eric Dollard! snooper2 Jan 2014 #54
How it was done: RC Jan 2014 #73
I DEMAND YOU DELETE THIS REPLY! snooper2 Jan 2014 #74
I keep my phone on the kitchen counter. OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #52
Hosts? Mercola?... SidDithers Jan 2014 #62
Could this be inverse woo? L0oniX Jan 2014 #66
Joseph Mercola, the author of the article linked in the OP, is a fucking loon... SidDithers Jan 2014 #70
Is a DEVICE more dangerous than a regular device? Silent3 Jan 2014 #82
CUMULATIVE marions ghost Jan 2014 #83
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