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linuxman

(2,337 posts)
108. Let's be real here.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:47 AM
Jan 2014

I've been a reader of this site for years. Probably five or more. I never registered an account until recently, as I'm not big on that (I have one account for another board, but that's it.) I'm not new to the way things work around here, and I learned years ago (and reaffirmed it daily) that the gun-control proponents on this site would rather hurl insults, feign illness/revulsion, talk about genitals, go on emotional benders, and belittle the people they disagree with, rather than debate the issue in some sort of civilized manner. Hell, you can see it all unfold in this thread. I've never once seen this "higher level of debate" you're talking about. Perhaps you could illustrate that.

You see, in my opinion, a civilized debate would be a discussion of the rights of an employer to prevent gun's on their property and how those rights come into conflict with an individuals right to self defense. What I got instead was "HURR DURR, You're a big tough guy with your GunZ!!! I ain't scared!!!" Par for the course. I try to lower myself to that level as little as possible, but let's not pretend that every debate about this issue on DU doesn't rapidly degenerate into some sort of ad hominem gang-bang.

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Anyone who's looked at her record should already know this. tammywammy Jan 2014 #1
I knew that about her. I'm not worried. She wouldn't get elected in Texas without it. nt okaawhatever Jan 2014 #2
GIVE MONEY TO BATTLEGROUND TEXAS TODAY stg81 Jan 2014 #137
Who needs their guns at work? Politicalboi Jan 2014 #3
It's not neccesarily about needing it at work linuxman Jan 2014 #14
Yuk. Just Yuk. Just what we need. Another gunner on this board. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #30
Let me fetch you a fainting stool... linuxman Jan 2014 #39
Thanks for the lecture. You've converted me. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #43
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #85
*Yaaaawn* linuxman Jan 2014 #95
To your post telling them to fetch you a fainting stool kcr Jan 2014 #100
Let's be real here. linuxman Jan 2014 #108
That wasn't the first response kcr Jan 2014 #110
I'm here to post about all my relevant interest, linuxman Jan 2014 #118
I just took exception to your claim that all others were the same kcr Jan 2014 #120
I'm not discounting the possibility that they do exist entirely. linuxman Jan 2014 #124
Most would agree? kcr Jan 2014 #126
Most of the users on this site. N/T linuxman Jan 2014 #127
I wish I had a reading of the members of DU like that. kcr Jan 2014 #130
After four whole days here, too.... with their latest account, anyway. Electric Monk Jan 2014 #138
I imagine we often see only that which we wish to, and discount as improbable those things... LanternWaste Jan 2014 #151
What is the other site you have an account on? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #143
A general interest hobby site. linuxman Jan 2014 #145
I've only been reading here a few months MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #154
So you managed to lurk here for 5 years without wanting to post a single comment SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #169
Why? linuxman Jan 2014 #173
Because it's human nature to want to participate, especially if SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #174
Largely because of things like this. linuxman Jan 2014 #175
Enjoy your stay... SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #103
Lotta hate and PERSONAL ATTACK, there. Apologies? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #107
This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #111
What are you, the DU nanny n/t kcr Jan 2014 #116
Yes! I'll take away your lollipop! Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #162
or as Texas Governor Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #41
Well, this is the gun forum. 'You support Davis? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #58
of course not Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #63
That's ridiculous. Many Democrats support gun rights. Most aren't opposed to background checks, okaawhatever Jan 2014 #71
I do not think I have found one opposed to background checks Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #72
There are several Democrats in the Senate who oppose background checks. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #94
I own several firearms, and am quite open about it. I've never been called "killer, murderer" or... Scuba Jan 2014 #149
Actually this is general discussion Scootaloo Jan 2014 #70
This is what you think of gun-owning Democrats? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #74
the poopy pants comment was probably referring to Mr. draft dodger and NRA official spokesman Ted okaawhatever Jan 2014 #91
Actually, more to do with the perpetual terror that gun goons live in Scootaloo Jan 2014 #101
No. He/she referenced fellow DUers in GC/RKBA. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #102
little bit of generalization Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #77
Well, the big tent happens to have a lot of clowns Scootaloo Jan 2014 #96
Does this mean you won't be supporting Wendy Davis? Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2014 #163
When my husband worked nights in an area of E. LA he never carried a gun in his work car... Tikki Jan 2014 #181
I used to work the graveyard shift on a job in the Tampa Bay Area of Florida. ... spin Jan 2014 #73
should never have that option Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #79
I'm so glad the third hand recounting of that anecdote of road rage ended well kcr Jan 2014 #90
I have no idea if something he did caused the road rage. ... spin Jan 2014 #131
"I also became a much more polite driver when I started carrying a firearm in my car." kcr Jan 2014 #133
Many other people that I have known through the years told me that they had become ... spin Jan 2014 #139
Having a permit certainly doesn't make them an angel. Nor does being law abiding kcr Jan 2014 #140
Most mass murderers have waved numerous red flags before they ran amok. ... spin Jan 2014 #142
In stats, Zimmerman is considered a law-abiding citizen who used his gun for self-defense. Hoyt Jan 2014 #147
Zimmerman was not a mass murderer. ... spin Jan 2014 #170
And it also renders your opinion of looket how law abiding all the CCWs are kcr Jan 2014 #172
I have often said that while those who legally carry are not angels ... spin Jan 2014 #178
When gun enthusiast logic looks at data kcr Jan 2014 #179
When a gun control enthusiast looks at the data he often ignores the big picture ... spin Jan 2014 #183
It isn't gun control enthusiasts ignoring the big picture kcr Jan 2014 #184
How does that explain Maine? spin Jan 2014 #185
You may be wrong. They haven't turned up any evidence they knew each other kcr Jan 2014 #168
To me, a red flag is someone who has or wants a gun like this -- Hoyt Jan 2014 #171
He does seem to like Kel-Tec firearms. (n/t) spin Jan 2014 #187
What about people who live in those bad areas? DragonBorn Jan 2014 #180
Good point kcr Jan 2014 #182
Do you live in those areas? How about all the people who use this argument to rationalize Hoyt Jan 2014 #188
I dont anymore, moved about 10 years ago. DragonBorn Jan 2014 #189
A rifle doesn't really bother me. A bunch of them, toting gunz, is a problem IMO. Hoyt Jan 2014 #190
That's the only language assholes understand. jsr Jan 2014 #113
Wow, lots of negative stuff being pushed about Davis davidpdx Jan 2014 #4
sad but Texas is filled with gun nuts Skittles Jan 2014 #5
You mean he's not planning that? GP6971 Jan 2014 #6
they're just stupid paranoid assholes Skittles Jan 2014 #23
Agreed! HERVEPA Jan 2014 #32
All politicians do it GP6971 Jan 2014 #45
That include Davis? Is the gun issue a deal breaker? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #65
So you oppose Wendy Davis? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #106
oh no, absolutely not Skittles Jan 2014 #117
I'm okay with that, but I like her gun stance. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #161
It's Texas, she has to support expansion. 1000words Jan 2014 #7
That all sounds vaguely familiar. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #9
I know, right. 1000words Jan 2014 #11
I don't think any of them have the guts. Skip Intro Jan 2014 #13
That's cute kcr Jan 2014 #15
I'm not so one-issue. I have supported gun-control Democrats... Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #28
I'm not one issue. But there are plenty of Dems to support who aren't gun extremists kcr Jan 2014 #33
"So there's no need for me to support one who is." friendly_iconoclast Jan 2014 #80
Why? I don't live in Texas. kcr Jan 2014 #81
Or in the Twilight Zone, "That does not compute." Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #22
Nice response to arrogance. HERVEPA Jan 2014 #35
Whose 'arrogance?' I didn't see his/her post. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #76
I imagine many less-than-literate individuals expect others to support a candidate's platform 100% LanternWaste Jan 2014 #153
My real concern is what this means for poor Wendy... linuxman Jan 2014 #19
This is the Gun Forum, not a gender group... Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #34
Gun Forum? Or did I miss the Sarc ? pkdu Jan 2014 #52
GD = Gun forum defacto7 Jan 2014 #69
Gun related OPs today... sarisataka Jan 2014 #82
Probably not. The story isn't salacious enough. Plus there's supporting gun rights, and supporting okaawhatever Jan 2014 #78
That's why I don't live in Texas n/t kcr Jan 2014 #8
Texas. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #10
Yes. They were forced to get guns. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #20
When in Rome jsr Jan 2014 #12
'Sum things jes need killin' freshwest Jan 2014 #21
I believe she was dove-hunting. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #37
You have a lot of support, Sen. Davis, but if you don't support gun control... FrodosPet Jan 2014 #16
A lot of that in DU. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #18
What? Wendy Davis and Ann Richards are... Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #17
yep Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #36
Jeez, how could I miss "future murderers?" Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #42
Don't forget that other gun owner: Gabby Giffords. nt hack89 Jan 2014 #155
who has been traveling the country pushing gun control measures... loyalsister Jan 2014 #166
I know. I agree with her on background checks. hack89 Jan 2014 #167
Boo. And yes, I'll go there. BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #24
No, Texans are just not a terribly brave lot. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #40
Does that include Davis & Richards? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #44
Davis thus far has managed to live her life without a weapon on her geek tragedy Jan 2014 #48
So, she's gonna get her Timid Card™ now? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #53
No, she has the courage to walk in public unarmed. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #59
She's seeking a concealed carry permit. Didn't you read the two paragraph OP? Skip Intro Jan 2014 #92
I'll be charitable and consider that pandering to the gun humpers. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #97
how do you know she Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #55
I'm a Texan And Don't Own A Gun MagickMuffin Jan 2014 #144
Texas JI7 Jan 2014 #25
Uh oh LittleBlue Jan 2014 #26
I only wonder . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #27
You have both rights. nt Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #49
I'll believe that . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #67
... X_Digger Jan 2014 #29
Not liking guns in TX is like not liking the Red Sox in Boston. MADem Jan 2014 #31
Meh. A lot of Texans are afraid to walk outside without geek tragedy Jan 2014 #38
Not all. nt Lisa0825 Jan 2014 #46
Obviously there are exceptions. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #50
Then don't say "all." nt Lisa0825 Jan 2014 #54
all does not mean all Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #60
Where did they say "all"? nt cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #156
The post has since been edited. tammywammy Jan 2014 #158
Thanks cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #159
Does that include Davis and Richards? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #47
Really? That's strange. tammywammy Jan 2014 #51
Maybe it's just the men who have these issues. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #57
No. n/t tammywammy Jan 2014 #61
Your remark sounds sexist. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #84
I dunno. Never encountered in real life one of the pants wetting types that geek tragedy Jan 2014 #88
Still sounds sexist. But anything goes when it's about guns, right? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #112
"Anything goes when it's about guns" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #119
Doubling down? Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #123
You never met my mom FrodosPet Jan 2014 #146
Unfortunate, but what do we expect from Texas. nt Deep13 Jan 2014 #56
Worse was her joining with Republicans to resist paying for education. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #64
that is absolute bullshit. Wendy's first filibuster was to stop a massive education cut. It would okaawhatever Jan 2014 #99
Yeah, she invoked 'closing loopholes' which of course is always the solution geek tragedy Jan 2014 #105
Oh, FFS. If she wasn't serious she wouldn't have filibustered. She also said CORPORATE loopholes okaawhatever Jan 2014 #109
More band aids, smoke and mirrors. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #114
I said I hoped a fix for property tax was part of it. She has only claimed closing corporate tax okaawhatever Jan 2014 #121
"expansion of gun rights" defacto7 Jan 2014 #62
Well, they only legalize murder over property after dark there. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #66
That would be WMD Duckhunter935 Jan 2014 #68
"Nukes?" You can make a separate post in GD; I'm sure it'll pass muster. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #83
Uhhh, right. defacto7 Jan 2014 #93
Check #82. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #125
Ahhhh. LOL defacto7 Jan 2014 #128
I think returning guns to the big stage was what the prohibitionists planned. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #150
You're not supposed to make gun posts in GD! It's the rulez! kcr Jan 2014 #129
Likely would have to be open carry sarisataka Jan 2014 #86
Of course not. Why would any rational individual wish to own a nuclear weapon ... spin Jan 2014 #141
That's a shame. liberal_at_heart Jan 2014 #75
I back Demos & put up with their gun ban stuff. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #89
She probably NEEDS it! ErikJ Jan 2014 #87
Considering the locals.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #98
Used to see postcards of some kid eating watermelon. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #122
I used to see deer hunting UAW workers in Michigan. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #160
She's running for governor of Texas. n/t Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #104
Not really surprising you wouldn't run in support of more control in Texas if you hope to win Arcanetrance Jan 2014 #115
Ruh-roh! CANDO Jan 2014 #132
So? blogslut Jan 2014 #134
Hmmm. Yesss. How curious... Skip Intro Jan 2014 #135
Okay. blogslut Jan 2014 #136
She voted R in the past. She's law-partnered with an R. PDittie Jan 2014 #148
She wouldn't get elected here without saying that. Avalux Jan 2014 #152
Gotta love common sense moderate Democrats MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #157
A liberal with a gun is not a rarity. B Calm Jan 2014 #164
She's doing this in a state where expanded gun ownership will do little harm Bucky Jan 2014 #165
Bill of rights nil desperandum Jan 2014 #177
More popcorn required.. X_Digger Jan 2014 #186
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