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DallasNE

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15. This Certainly Shows How Strongly

Reply to cali (Original post)

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:30 AM

Mar 2012

These great leaders felt about the establishment clause in the First Amendment.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

Today's rightwing zealots simply ignore the language preceeding the "or" and contend that the "free exercise" is all encompassing and is all that matters, rejecting the notion that it is limited to items regarding worship. Somehow they conveniently ignore the constraints imposed on the Mormon Church, namely that a hetrosexual marriage is between one man and one woman -- a ruling that forced Mitt Romney's grandfather to move his family to Mexico.

But the history book is something Republicans are always trying to rewrite through the legislative process. Think not, just look at the recent history of Texas.

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Want to drive a right winger insane? Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Paine on religion [View all] cali Mar 2012 OP

Unlike the Founders, most Americans have forgotten the horrors of institutionalized religion. Selatius Mar 2012 #1

If you were of the wrong denomination quaker bill Mar 2012 #2

True but mackattack Mar 2012 #4

That is why the Constitutional Convention was held there quaker bill Mar 2012 #43

True and evilhime Mar 2012 #52

"Drive them insane"? mwb970 Mar 2012 #3

Now that was funny tinymontgomery Mar 2012 #6

DUzy!!! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #14

I thought that horse had left the barn a long time ago. emsimon33 Mar 2012 #36

Hell, it's a gimme! 11 Bravo Mar 2012 #38

Or just turn the key & back out of the garage HarveyDarkey Mar 2012 #46

You need a secret decoder liberal brain, otherwise NAO Mar 2012 #5

Thanks for this link, I hadn't heard about SamG Mar 2012 #7

Just read the links and a few abstracts... ewagner Mar 2012 #16

Yeah, I read the whole article SamG Mar 2012 #20

We've known this for a while via the RW Authoritarian Follower theory. Those who aren't familiar lib_wit_it Mar 2012 #29

"Republican Brain" is newest in batch of books on cognitive psychology of political orientation NAO Mar 2012 #34

Great links, I have only skimmed one of those before this. SamG Mar 2012 #45

Thanks for notice of this dballance Mar 2012 #10

There is a book called 'The Republican Brain'? LeftishBrit Mar 2012 #18

Thanks, I needed a Facebook Status get the red out Mar 2012 #8

They are actually speaking against Nationalization of Religion and the Institution. harun Mar 2012 #9

That's true. In other words, they wanted a wall of sorts Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #11

Politicans and Preachers Llaovell Mar 2012 #30

Paine was an atheist _ed_ Mar 2012 #22

Yes, a deist god, not a Christian one longship Mar 2012 #25

The ones quoted were Deists. white_wolf Mar 2012 #47

K&R Odin2005 Mar 2012 #12

hehehe SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #13

I wonder what Rev. Martin Luther King would have thought of it? OPOS Mar 2012 #24

Try harder. Rev. King was foursquare against a state religion. Ikonoklast Mar 2012 #44

This Certainly Shows How Strongly DallasNE Mar 2012 #15

good post...n/t ewagner Mar 2012 #17

As most do you have cherry picked quotes. former9thward Mar 2012 #19

Really? cali Mar 2012 #23

Really. former9thward Mar 2012 #31

No Icicle Mar 2012 #37

Of course if it was as simple as you state former9thward Mar 2012 #39

Do you then believe that states can adopt their own official religions? Hugabear Mar 2012 #40

No. Over the years the Supreme court applied most of the Bill of Rights to the states. former9thward Mar 2012 #41

Do Glenn Beck's followers know that Paine was an atheist? CJCRANE Mar 2012 #32

I heard Beck say it on the air NAO Mar 2012 #33

Thanks. Typical Beck, couldn't tell his followers the whole truth. nt CJCRANE Mar 2012 #35

Paine was certainly useful at the beginning of the revolution. former9thward Mar 2012 #50

This post is so wrong. white_wolf Mar 2012 #49

I love how people in 2012 make so definitive statements former9thward Mar 2012 #51

Age of Reason is a deistic text. white_wolf Mar 2012 #55

I don't know why that is so important to you former9thward Mar 2012 #60

Thomas Paine existentialist Mar 2012 #54

Certainly his views inspired the Revolution. former9thward Mar 2012 #61

Perhaps, but existentialist Mar 2012 #64

He had a interesting life to say the least. former9thward Mar 2012 #65

Just mention a Denis Diderot quote: markbark Mar 2012 #21

oh my amuse bouche Mar 2012 #58

K&R Raffi Ella Mar 2012 #26

I love Paine above all the other Founding Fathers. My hero. freshwest Mar 2012 #27

PBS had a documentary on thomas paine years ago newspeak Mar 2012 #63

Kick. sarcasmo Mar 2012 #28

Tell them about the Treaty of Tripoli. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #42

Four names on the Declaration of Independence voted 'yea' to ratify that treaty, and a fifth signed AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #59

There's even people on the left who can't seem to grasp this. Initech Mar 2012 #48

Franklin existentialist Mar 2012 #53

Thank you libodem Mar 2012 #56

They would find an amuse bouche Mar 2012 #57

Good point! tdb63 Mar 2012 #62

they ARE insane fascisthunter Mar 2012 #66