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Are_grits_groceries

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19. He didn't have a gun.

Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:32 AM

Mar 2012

In addition, Zimmerman had pegged him as a suspicious person and looked at him in a negative light. I'll bet any movement by Trayvon would be seen as malevolent. Zimmerman also seemed to feel he had the same powers as a policeman would have.

With those factors, Trayvon was in trouble. Standing his ground could have been viewed by Zimmerman as looking for a confrontation. IMO Trayvon had no good way out with someone who was armed that had Zimmerman's mindset.

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Self-defense: Duty to retreat or Stand your ground [View all] Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #1

it never fails to amaze me that, as you state, even on DU DrDan Mar 2012 #3

DU is just as susceptible to right wing propaganda as other sites/populations Doctor_J Mar 2012 #6

Many posters in the gungeon who support concealed carry and gun rights ... spin Mar 2012 #46

Deadly Force is not OK in defense of property. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #7

not to some here DrDan Mar 2012 #29

I am taking a legal class CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #39

a burglar entering your house in Florida gives you the right to use deadly force DrDan Mar 2012 #40

True. However ... spin Mar 2012 #47

perhaps you would not "chase or shoot him" - that does not hold true for everyone else with a gun DrDan Mar 2012 #54

"In fear" is the key dmkinsey Mar 2012 #41

You forgot two very important words ... spin Mar 2012 #49

I couldn't find what you quoted here. Union Scribe Mar 2012 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Mar 2012 #21

It isn't my fault that what you put in quotes Union Scribe Mar 2012 #36

Only what they said in my class. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #50

k&r, n/t appal_jack Mar 2012 #2

Great post alcibiades_mystery Mar 2012 #4

Zimmerman wasn't "standing his ground" by any definition anyway Doctor_J Mar 2012 #5

"standing one's ground" generally refers to someone in their home or other place they have a right Romulox Mar 2012 #8

Unfortunately, Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #12

From your OP: "What if Trayvon was standing his ground?" nt Romulox Mar 2012 #15

Unfortunately I think the prefered solution to the NRA would Doctor_J Mar 2012 #17

He didn't have a gun. Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #19

Having a gun isn't a required precondition for self defense. At any rate, *you* posted the article, Romulox Mar 2012 #20

No, it isn't. Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #24

Absolutely. Even more confusingly, it's possible for *both* parties to be Romulox Mar 2012 #28

Agree with you 100%. DLevine Mar 2012 #9

Because he's dead zipplewrath Mar 2012 #10

Zimmerman chases down an unarmed man and kills him. DLevine Mar 2012 #13

Prove it zipplewrath Mar 2012 #18

Maybe it's just me. DLevine Mar 2012 #22

Depends upon the state zipplewrath Mar 2012 #25

The 911 call that Zimmerman himself made is evidence that he chased Martin. He admits it. yardwork Mar 2012 #31

Pretty obvious to me too zipplewrath Mar 2012 #34

I don't know. Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #14

I hope the police can use cell phone positioning data to determine Zimmerman's JoePhilly Mar 2012 #16

Zimmerman told the emergency dispatcher that he was chasing the "suspect." yardwork Mar 2012 #32

I hope that toasts him. JoePhilly Mar 2012 #44

When conservative controlled governments put weapons in the hands of unstable violent morons.... Evasporque Mar 2012 #23

It seems to me that the reasoning behind LuvNewcastle Mar 2012 #26

It expands the doctrine of Castle Law. Are_grits_groceries Mar 2012 #30

One of the gungeon denizens told me the other day this has "nothing to do Doctor_J Mar 2012 #33

Common sense is also rare against among anti-gun people. I have seen both over react. Logical Mar 2012 #45

I basically agree ... spin Mar 2012 #51

Why did police automatically assume Martin was the aggressor? Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #27

What makes you think they did? zipplewrath Mar 2012 #35

Except that the Sanford police have been caught in several lies about this so far. yardwork Mar 2012 #37

With any luck at all COLGATE4 Mar 2012 #38

becasue Zimmerman was standing his ground, not the black guy librechik Mar 2012 #42

"Stand Your Ground" does not apply when you start the confrontation. L0oniX Mar 2012 #43

While I think this POS's actions fail to even meet the meager Stand Your Ground requirements... Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2012 #48

Agree on both points. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2012 #52

Which one looks dangerous to you? SomethingFishy Mar 2012 #53