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RZM

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10. I don't think that's quite correct
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:14 AM
Mar 2012

There's a difference between 'un-American' and 'not'-American.' And because of Obama's background and life experience, he has been vulnerable to both attacks.

The 'not-American part' is about more than race - it's about culture.

Obama's father was not an American. He was born in Kenya, spent most of his life there, and died there as well. Although an atheist, he was born into a Muslim family.

This sets Obama apart from most African-Americans and is part of the reason why there are insinuations he's not really American (i.e. the Birthers).

The 'un-American' accusations are much less about race and are best illustrated by his association with people like Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright. Yes, race plays into the Reverend Wright thing, but few would assert that Wright is not an American. He was born here in America to a Christian family and served in the military. They would say he's 'un-American' or 'anti-American,' because of his political views. Same thing with Bill Ayers, who is of course white. Nobody would say he isn't an American, they would (and did) say that he's anti-American.

So I think that's where this comes from. It's both a nod to the birthers and a nod to a wider audience that doesn't appreciate views that are highly critical of America. On the second point, there problem is more the message than the person.

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that's the kind of station KFI is and has been for a long time nt msongs Mar 2012 #1
True that. Reckless judgmental hate-stirrers. calimary Mar 2012 #9
"Newtdingo"? Ken Burch Mar 2012 #2
I may be the only one here to 'get' the 'Mandingo' reference. trof Mar 2012 #4
I saw a clip of Gingrich speaking somewhere yesterday... OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #3
It is more than the birthers malaise Mar 2012 #5
True. OneGrassRoot Mar 2012 #7
I don't think that's quite correct RZM Mar 2012 #10
Racist? Really? JackintheGreen Mar 2012 #6
Well this ain't Dixie, sugar. It's Los Angeles. And that's a LOUD kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #11
Well sure, but LA also doesn't have the same racial history as the south JackintheGreen Mar 2012 #14
Southern California can be just as racist as anyplace else. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #15
I didn't say it didn't have a racist history JackintheGreen Mar 2012 #16
Didn't think you were defending Newt. Ken Burch Mar 2012 #17
You get points for that. Cheers! n/t JackintheGreen Mar 2012 #21
I hope he dosn't use the word "beat" Confusious Mar 2012 #8
Oh, I don't need a vocabulary lesson. I was reading at college level in kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #12
The list is in alphabetical order, if you didn't notice Confusious Mar 2012 #20
"Newt won't let Obama 'Follow The Drinkin' Gourd' away from the real issues!" Ken Burch Mar 2012 #18
I sure didn't hear any dog whistle. Quantess Mar 2012 #13
Then again...it COULD just have meant Ken Burch Mar 2012 #19
We might have to translate this for some nadinbrzezinski Mar 2012 #22
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