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In reply to the discussion: Pregnant pot smokers can damage kids' brains [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)69. I already included a link in this thread
But here's another one in which Dreher talks about her work.
As far as your claim that smoke is always dangerous to a person's lungs and then claim this can have detrimental effects on pregnancy - you're making a leap of faith that does not exist. Are you as concerned about breathing the air filled with carbon monoxide from car exhaust? Does car exhaust impact more people than cannabis smoke? or tobacco smoke, for that matter?
But you want to believe this so badly, it seems that evidence that indicates other outcomes doesn't matter. Your position is irrational, iow.
Here's a link with lots of information about cannabis smoking and lung function - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=24515zA, including video from two different doctors, one of whom, Donald Tashkin, is the expert on cannabis and pulmonary function.
His findings in a longitudinal study with 400 participants: Marijuana smokers, even if they smoked tobacco as well, as the same rate of lung function, over time, as non-smokers of any kind. Only tobacco-smokers had decreased lung function.
He found no connection between marijuana smoking and lung cancer in a larger study. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html
Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.
Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.
They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.
"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."
Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.
They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.
"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."
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Good God. Putting smoke in your lungs for any reason while pregnant has consequences.
randome
Jan 2014
#7
The notion of chemicals introduced to a developing fetus causing an effect is unbeleivable, no?
Scootaloo
Jan 2014
#12
I voted for the WA law and I think this is exactly the RIGHT time to remind people
pnwmom
Jan 2014
#159
This is no surprise, and it is more than just alcohol. A lot of over the counter meds are harmful
lostincalifornia
Jan 2014
#5
we are definitely on the same page, and I won't mess my lungs up either.
lostincalifornia
Jan 2014
#83
My point is not that cats should be banned in pregnant women's homes, but that
tblue37
Jan 2014
#140
How many studies have there been with pregnant women and childhood development?
former9thward
Jan 2014
#72
how many studies have there been with pregnant women that used marijuana EXCLUSIVELY..
frylock
Jan 2014
#92
I voted for legalization but I support strongly informing people about possible risks.
pnwmom
Jan 2014
#160
Yep, agree. If I were pregnant, I would be careful of what I consumed, etc., just to
RKP5637
Jan 2014
#56
Are you under the impression the mice smoked? The study is about THC ingestion
Bluenorthwest
Jan 2014
#85
What is it about marijuana that makes it impossible for certain people to consider it has harmful
Renew Deal
Jan 2014
#28
science based fact that marijuana reduces nausea? There is some question of that?
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#77
well you can be allergic to cigarette smoke...and allergies effect the entire body
VanillaRhapsody
Jan 2014
#125
You have a spouse almost overdose on opiates and then turn their life around by using
liberal_at_heart
Feb 2014
#171
Everything you ingest or sense causes chemical reactions that influence perception. nt
tridim
Jan 2014
#49
No, Cannabis doesn't "alter your brain", it binds to specific Cannabinoid receptors...
tridim
Jan 2014
#48
You claimed it doesn't. I claimed it is possible based on accepted research...
yawnmaster
Jan 2014
#135
Nice work...thanks! I did see that canabinoids may be used by the brain to help forget...
yawnmaster
Jan 2014
#149
When I was practicing in Juvenile Court we followed this subject pretty closely.
Shrike47
Jan 2014
#53
I'm a person who doesn't think a pregnant woman should smoke or drink during pregnancy. But.
Lint Head
Jan 2014
#54
It probably fucks kids up more to throw their parents in jail for weed.
The Midway Rebel
Jan 2014
#65
There is no such thing as a 100% safe substance. Drink too much water, breathe too much air
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#66
I'm not. I am interested in good quality air, just the amount I need. Not this kind...
stevenleser
Jan 2014
#147
and sperm gets damaged from drinking, pot and all that, causing birth defects- so what do we do?
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#67
there has been an uptick in cases where women are incarcerated for crap like this- instead of helped
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#82
Actually YES. "Fetal Protection Laws" Look em up, and find out how hundreds of women....
bettyellen
Jan 2014
#142
I don't think Thalidomide was prescribed in the US-- not for morning sickness, anyway
ailsagirl
Jan 2014
#106
The anti-pot crowd are in a panic. The movement to legalize weed is now unstoppable and
ChisolmTrailDem
Jan 2014
#122
This poster seems obsessed with presenting every piece of reich-wing trash they can find.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#170
It would seem likely that a lot of fetuses have been exposed to pot, nicotine, alcohol,and who knows
dogman
Jan 2014
#154
More non-scientific bullshit mashed up to justify authoritarian control displayed
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#168