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Thank you, Fearless theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #1
Marriage is a civil contract between two parties. You are right. Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2014 #2
Yep, I hate hearing that, too. It's bullshit kcr Jan 2014 #3
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #4
K&R. JDPriestly Jan 2014 #5
While the idea is great, I can't agree with this joeglow3 Jan 2014 #6
Seems pretty in line with thousands of years of pre-christian civil marriages as well. Fearless Jan 2014 #7
You really jumped the shark with that post joeglow3 Jan 2014 #15
The Anglican and Episcopalian Book of Common Prayer calls it "Solemnization of Matrimony" Glorfindel Jan 2014 #29
It HAS no roots in religion Fearless Jan 2014 #38
Again, that was not what I stated joeglow3 Jan 2014 #39
That is exactly what you JUST state Fearless Jan 2014 #40
The original post said churchs do not recognize "marriages" joeglow3 Jan 2014 #41
It says churches do not PERFORM marriages. Fearless Feb 2014 #42
We have a marriage certificate on file at our church joeglow3 Feb 2014 #46
You can have a marriage cert on file anywhere. I've one in my bedroom but my bedroom did not perform uppityperson Feb 2014 #49
You are creating a false premise joeglow3 Feb 2014 #52
A church wedding does not give legal protections a marriage does. And as far as "not very ... uppityperson Feb 2014 #53
+1 Fearless Feb 2014 #54
Wow. I think those goal posts moving broke the sound barrier joeglow3 Feb 2014 #56
I do not think that word means what you think it means. And yes, that was what the topic was about uppityperson Feb 2014 #59
No, I think it means what the dictionary said it means. joeglow3 Feb 2014 #60
I am using the goal posts from the OP. Take up the argument with them. uppityperson Feb 2014 #61
Actually, for the first approximately 1,000 years of its existence . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #30
Marriages and weddings predate the clerk's office. eom. Festivito Jan 2014 #8
They also predate the Christian church. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #12
Quite correct . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #32
You might want to add an "in America" qualification, because as it stands I think it's not true. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #9
I don't think Fearless was addressing global guidelines for marriage theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #13
By the way... totally unrelated to the OP theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #16
I'm afraid I hadn't heard of him. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #19
But in most cases, you aren't actually married until an authorized person does the wedding part. MadrasT Jan 2014 #10
No, not all people can get married in a church theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #11
Various officials and celebrants perform weddings, marriage is a civil construct Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #14
Here's a couple of short pieces on Rankin theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #21
Sorry.... posted out of order theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #22
States vary Uben Jan 2014 #26
Clergy do NOT "perform" marriages . . . markpkessinger Jan 2014 #31
"Authorized" is the part that many get hung up on. We had a friend authorized to sign the papers uppityperson Feb 2014 #50
I was married in a court-house, so I know this very well! WinkyDink Jan 2014 #17
And I used to officiate Madam Mossfern Jan 2014 #25
My marriage within the Catholic Church is one thing, my civil marriage is another. hunter Jan 2014 #18
Marriage is not a permit. Glassunion Jan 2014 #20
A marriage licence is the state giving you permission to get married. former9thward Jan 2014 #23
Which is stupid. Glassunion Jan 2014 #24
Maybe some states, but none I know of..... Uben Jan 2014 #28
Permission is required to obtain the legal status of being married. former9thward Jan 2014 #34
"You can't just declare you are married and have that status" Uben Jan 2014 #36
Your own post former9thward Jan 2014 #37
A common law does not exist because a license was issued. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Xyzse Jan 2014 #27
Kicking for mstinamotorcity2 Jan 2014 #33
Kick & recommended. William769 Jan 2014 #35
Churches have not performed weddings either, Jenoch Feb 2014 #43
Your statement is a non sequitur. Marriages are not "performed". WillowTree Feb 2014 #44
"Marriages are not 'performed'" is a non-sequitur. Fearless Feb 2014 #45
I know that no one said anything about the certificate. What it did say, though...... WillowTree Feb 2014 #48
"Ceremony" Fearless Feb 2014 #55
the idea this OP is trying to express is a noble and correct one arely staircase Feb 2014 #47
Actually, it isn't correct. Ms. Toad Feb 2014 #58
Agree!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2014 #51
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