Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
Editorials & Other Articles
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Can we talk about a Maximum Wage? [View all]Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)53. Rather than a Maximum Wage that attempts to pin some number on an amorphous concept
such as wealth or compensation, how about a national minimum standard of living?
When every American is free from unreasonable necessity, who really cares about the mindless pursuit of more?
It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our peoplewhether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenthis ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.
This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rightsamong them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, howeveras our industrial economy expandedthese political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for allregardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.
This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rightsamong them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.
As our nation has grown in size and stature, howeveras our industrial economy expandedthese political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.
We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. Necessitous men are not free men. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for allregardless of station, race, or creed.
Among these are:
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
The right of every family to a decent home;
The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
The right to a good education.
All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.
America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens.
For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
Recommendations
0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):
60 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
the money for CEO's isn't in wage/salary, it's in 'incentive compensation' that
geek tragedy
Jan 2014
#1
Yep. Enforcement is the problem, but the standards nevertheless have to be set.
loudsue
Jan 2014
#12
Ben and Jerry's set theirs at 10x the lowest paid worker which is the Green Party's proposed
adirondacker
Jan 2014
#59
I was responding to your argument on companies cutting jobs to go around the idea in the OP.
Half-Century Man
Jan 2014
#33
Nothing, because you've pretty well ensured that you will be broke very quickly.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#26
As I said, in a sane system one would start a business because they want to do
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#34
Personally I think two things would go the furthest. Eliminate any distinction between incomes.
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#51
Or a living wage....no one is talking about a living wage, was popular at one time.....now??
a kennedy
Jan 2014
#9
If you have a machine shop you are putting money into, the money for the business is a deduction
haele
Jan 2014
#41
It's not likely I can sell you anything. But I have zero respect for great wealth.
hunter
Jan 2014
#55
The "minimum wealth" for both the foolhardy and the not foolhardy could be kept in trust.
hunter
Jan 2014
#58
Funny. Professional sports leagues like the NFL, NBA, and MLB all have salary caps/luxury taxes
Yavin4
Jan 2014
#36
Rather than a Maximum Wage that attempts to pin some number on an amorphous concept
Egalitarian Thug
Jan 2014
#53