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37. Well, put it this way. Every time I saw soldiers brought to the SOTU since the beginning

Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:03 PM

Jan 2014

of the criminal invasions we got lied into I opposed it vehemently and so did EVERY DEMOCRAT I ever knew.

Here's how I would like to see soldiers at the SOTU. I would like to see a contingency of those brave souls who came back after realizing how they were lied to and formed organizations such as 'The Iraq Veterans Against the War' be given a place to tell the people why we need to end all these invasions NOW. You know, some TRUTH rather than appeal to the emotions of the people who are torn about these wars, wanting to support the troops, but hating the wars, by calliing their service fighting for our 'freedoms'. Nothing could be further from the truth. They were NOT fighting for our freedoms. They were fighting for corporations and MANY OF THE KNOW THIS. So let's hear from the men and women who put their lives on the line for a lie.

Because that way this country might not be so willing to do it again.

I will always oppose the glorification of war.

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Fox News: Obama used wounded soldier as a prop & human shield [View all] geek tragedy Jan 2014 OP

Gutfeld is a loathsome individual. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #1

I wish he was a uniquely loathsome, irrational person nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #2

I wish that it was only him as well but.... n/t. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #4

Yeah, right? Because we had a couple of those uniquely loathsome threads . . . brush Jan 2014 #30

"uniquely loathsome".. Not a bad description Cha Jan 2014 #196

Faux Newz has been reading DU Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #3

No, The Five was much more respectful of President Obama geek tragedy Jan 2014 #6

So true. DURHAM D Jan 2014 #10

Unfortunately, so true. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #143

Might as well include links to the threads that you're referring to Electric Monk Jan 2014 #8

everyone's already seen the leftwing version of this talking point geek tragedy Jan 2014 #9

Of course no one from fox was sickened to their soul PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #33

No, actually that's not what any Republican would have done. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #39

I voted twice for him PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #56

did you watch the part where he vigorously denounced efforts geek tragedy Jan 2014 #60

Makes you wonder just how many of the commenters sheshe2 Jan 2014 #126

You donate to a man who sickens your soul? OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #73

LOL! ProSense Jan 2014 #77

Welcome back to DU! Union Scribe Jan 2014 #82

Having half the site talking about Obama in the same manner as does geek tragedy Jan 2014 #92

So Sarah Palin, in your view AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #98

No, her ideas are heinous, she's just less generally hateful geek tragedy Jan 2014 #101

So, she hates Obama AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #137

She never claimed that Obama made her sick to her soul. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #161

She has said many, many things MUCH worse that that AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #188

Palin is the least respectable public figure in the USA. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #189

Yet in your mind AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #190

Not better, just less emotionally invested in hating the President. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #191

Riiiiiight AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #192

Her rhetoric is less hateful. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #193

The only hate floating around here AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #194

I beg your pardon? OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #93

and on the same but slightly modified to appeal to the left talking points as Fox News. nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #153

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jan 2014 #160

The man does not PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #132

you are defending Republicans now? grasswire Jan 2014 #152

I haven't seen it AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #42

Here's one DU post that refers to "props"...written after Obama's SOTU on Tuesday. Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #100

There is no hate in that OP AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #138

They see any and all criticism as "hate." morningfog Jan 2014 #168

Truth. n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #200

Well, there's the grandaddy of them all, so to speak Hekate Jan 2014 #179

the profiteering Cha Jan 2014 #174

yeah, "fuck" nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #142

If so I hope they keep reading Mojorabbit Jan 2014 #204

They're just going pick up on the anti-Obama posts.... Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #205

Maybe the President should have gone down to the WWII memorial nyquil_man Jan 2014 #5

People like it as long as wounded vets are used as props for the right talking geek tragedy Jan 2014 #7

Hey, Gutfeld, what did you think of this moment? Hmm? tanyev Jan 2014 #11

I'm wondering if MSNBC has apologized for this yet world wide wally Jan 2014 #12

Well, the half of DU that agrees with Fox News about Obama didn't. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #13

But ... but ... I thought they liked presidents who used soldiers as props. lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #14

they do, when a President actually does so, if that president does geek tragedy Jan 2014 #16

Is that the fake turkey? n/t PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #45

Yes lpbk2713 Jan 2014 #63

Sweet! Lols. Aldo Leopold Jan 2014 #139

I was actually the discoverer of the fake turkey! louis-t Jan 2014 #74

far left, far right, everyone thinks they don't touch LOL snooper2 Jan 2014 #15

So what? Bush lied America into war with Fox's help. Octafish Jan 2014 #17

Here we go again. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #18

hey, if you agree with half of DU that Fox News understated just how evil geek tragedy Jan 2014 #20

Twisting words doesn't work either, just so y0u know. I prefer plain speaking. So let me sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #25

I don't give Fox or those who share their general mentality any credit. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #40

Well that was my point, 'Fox or those who share their general menatality' I don't even sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #80

I wasn't the one who read off the same page of talking points as Fox News. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #86

Who 'read off the same page of talking points as Fox News'? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #106

the people who agreed with Fox that Obama was cynically exploiting geek tragedy Jan 2014 #108

Please name these people 'who agreed with Fox' or you are lying, as far as I am concerned. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #110

do you disagree that Obama was cynically exploiting that soldier and using geek tragedy Jan 2014 #113

You have made a vile accusation against DUers. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #121

You didn't answer the question. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #128

Mission Accomplished. You lied about DUers and you did it deliberately. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #184

Yes, you're afraid to answer the question geek tragedy Jan 2014 #185

prop to reality gap proudretiredvet Jan 2014 #133

"That never works when someone is correct about something" LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #27

Well, put it this way. Every time I saw soldiers brought to the SOTU since the beginning sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #37

But doesn't Sgt. Remsburg's face reveal some of that truth? LordGlenconner Jan 2014 #61

Unless that point was made clearly, NO. What it does is make the public feel they HAVE to sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #83

so you agree with Fox News that Obama was exploiting the soldier to score geek tragedy Jan 2014 #94

I would quit while I was this far behind, if I were you. But I'm not you and have never called sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #109

I posted a statement of Fox making some excrable comments about the President. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #111

gawd, sabrina, you are not a stupid person Whisp Jan 2014 #115

Thank you, I am not a stupid person which is why I know when someone is calling out a sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #119

Nope. What I objected to was use of soldiers to deflect criticism from an illegal war of aggression stevenleser Jan 2014 #97

Was the Iraq War part of the struggle for America's freedom? sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #114

Nope, but he hid himself and his illegal war behind the soldiers. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #127

Is that the Big Derpowski? Whisp Jan 2014 #95

The Big Derpowski is a fucking awesone nickname... SidDithers Jan 2014 #130

oh shit!!! dionysus Jan 2014 #159

You gotta trademark that. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #163

The streak continues.... Bobbie Jo Jan 2014 #171

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jan 2014 #28

fox news talking point is arely staircase Jan 2014 #154

Why are you watching Fox? Most Democrats here have been boycotting that propaganda sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #182

I read about it on DU. arely staircase Jan 2014 #183

DERP Egnever Jan 2014 #19

fuck fox...the anti-democratic made up news network spanone Jan 2014 #21

FUCK!!! Somebody at Fox must read DU. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #22

Gutfeld? AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #23

there have been a lot worse, more hysterical reactions to the SOTU speech. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #26

Yeah? AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #31

. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #24

Very transparent isn't it? If I wanted to make a point against someone else's view, the LAST place sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #29

Well, given that a bunch of y'all agree with Fox News on this point . . . nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #35

Given that this is the best you can do to try to make some point, use Fox as sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #58

There is no link to Fox anywhere in the OP. OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #91

Yes. The thing that gets me Union Scribe Jan 2014 #43

Mediaite highlights all kinds of stuff--usually to make fun of it. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #51

Tell me, exactly, what parts I agree with. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #53

that Obama was cynically using the soldier to deflect criticism/recognition geek tragedy Jan 2014 #65

Nope. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #75

You are blatantly mischaracterizing what Pitt wrote. He directly accused geek tragedy Jan 2014 #84

I don't read Pitt's diatribes... OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #105

he said that a real leader would have said what Will Pitt wanted said geek tragedy Jan 2014 #117

Yeah, well... OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #134

I'll be back later Union Scribe Jan 2014 #87

when you are able to articulate your disagreement with at least parts of what Pitt wrote, go geek tragedy Jan 2014 #99

Bingo. BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #148

Don't bother with these ridiculous people. They're of no value. DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2014 #158

...guess you're too busy stirring shit Union Scribe Jan 2014 #64

Here's the original whine: geek tragedy Jan 2014 #71

Judging by your tactics Union Scribe Jan 2014 #79

Hey, misrepresent what Pitt wrote all you want. he said Obama's speech made him "sick to my soul" geek tragedy Jan 2014 #89

No, the Fox News criticism is much more rational and less hateful of the President. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #34

I could be wrong. Union Scribe Jan 2014 #44

hey, being more over the top in Obamahating than Fox News is certainly geek tragedy Jan 2014 #54

People compare Obama to Republicans all the time...I doubt you object to that Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #36

That is where you are so wrong. morningfog Jan 2014 #170

What in the world gives you the idea that this is beneath that poster? morningfog Jan 2014 #169

How is it that there are no ProSense Jan 2014 #32

Looking in the mirror and seeing Greg Gutfield must not be very pleasant. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #46

If they're even capable Cha Jan 2014 #177

... Cha Jan 2014 #167

there are certain types that view some people as things JI7 Jan 2014 #38

Both sides do it.. Fumesucker Jan 2014 #49

i don't believe some who claim to be on the left really are JI7 Jan 2014 #52

How peculiar, neither do I Fumesucker Jan 2014 #59

i'm not just talking about DU members, and i never saw any of those as being on the left JI7 Jan 2014 #62

Two of them were quite popular with the claque Fumesucker Jan 2014 #68

it was only one who kept getting a bunch of responses and recs for his bs JI7 Jan 2014 #72

Nope, two of them did Fumesucker Jan 2014 #81

BBI wasn't so obvious that more than half the site caught on. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #102

Oddly enough far fewer caught on to LZ, that poster was only obvious to a few of us Fumesucker Jan 2014 #103

honestly, I don't think I even paid attention to LZ. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #104

No, LZ was a Zen master of trolling, a few carefullly chosen words for maximum effect Fumesucker Jan 2014 #112

I've always been more of a Scorsese than a Godard fan. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #116

My favorite ProSense Jan 2014 #85

And he got 103 RECS, too! BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #149

Darcy Richardson's campaign only got 64 recs. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #164

Good post, JI7.. thanks. Cha Jan 2014 #172

If you agree with any conservative ever about anything you buy the whole conservative line Fumesucker Jan 2014 #41

No, they just agree with Fox News on how evil it was for Obama to geek tragedy Jan 2014 #47

I thought Dubya was and is evil (for varying values of "evil") Fumesucker Jan 2014 #55

killing a million Iraqis and torturing people is evil. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #57

Obama plays his cards shrewdly and close to his chest Fumesucker Jan 2014 #66

Sure, because we hated Dubya personally and inexorably. He hated everything he did. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #69

That's true of any writing, yours and mine alike Fumesucker Jan 2014 #96

oh, vets have been political footballs for a long time in this country. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #107

I would have been disappointed if no one had complained about it Fumesucker Jan 2014 #120

No, too high strung and fond of traveling nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #129

Like the way the far left trashes President Obama and reject Hillary Clinton when they do? TheMathieu Jan 2014 #50

Welcome to the DU! Fumesucker Jan 2014 #78

DU rec... SidDithers Jan 2014 #48

No surprise. That's pretty much how they roll. Captain Stern Jan 2014 #67

K&R. Sounds familiar. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #70

They have The Five and we have the 150 to 225. great white snark Jan 2014 #76

326 recommenders for the original hatefest nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #90

That's pretty much the whole barrel, yes? OilemFirchen Jan 2014 #123

Yep.. this Cha Jan 2014 #175

We got our practice in defending against this fucking shit, right here on DU Whisp Jan 2014 #88

The OP sentiment is defending "DU values." ProSense Jan 2014 #122

made me think of how Republicans keep repeating that 'family values' Whisp Jan 2014 #125

Fox are very sick people...sick, sick sick. n/t Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #118

We who were disgusted by the Fox way of thinking are being called dumb. Whisp Jan 2014 #124

"dumb"? If that isn't Cha Jan 2014 #173

I think the two sets of criticism are wholly separate concepts. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #131

I think you've hit the nail on the head, but that won't stop today's Two Minutes Hate. nt Electric Monk Jan 2014 #144

That'd be a nano penny nail. yowzayowzayowza Jan 2014 #165

As in freakin human pretzel calbibre, yowzayowzayowza.. Cha Jan 2014 #176

Hey ya, Cha. yowzayowzayowza Jan 2014 #186

Hell to The NO X times Cha Jan 2014 #187

Those who oppose melodrama do not say that the President geek tragedy Jan 2014 #162

Shame on you, Mr. President! rocktivity Jan 2014 #135

How quaint. MineralMan Jan 2014 #136

the message discipline is impressive arely staircase Jan 2014 #140

Sounds familiar, doesn't it. Aldo Leopold Jan 2014 #141

Seems strange to me that the African American DevonRex Jan 2014 #145

At least 327 DUers agree. cry baby Jan 2014 #146

Bottom line weissmam Jan 2014 #147

FOX News and (part of) DU finally agree on something. eom Jamaal510 Jan 2014 #150

Sounds like DU yesterday. bravenak Jan 2014 #151

Kick & recommended. William769 Jan 2014 #155

I'm splitting my sides at the irony of the OP! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2014 #180

It took me a minute but I figured out your comment. William769 Jan 2014 #181

Sorry about that! greatauntoftriplets Jan 2014 #199

I have as much regard for Gutfield as the others who made similar arguments regarding this soldier. gordianot Jan 2014 #156

Kick and recommended! BlueCaliDem Jan 2014 #157

Fox news.. garbage in Garbage out. It's all fucking bullshit that only faux/limbaugh, Cha Jan 2014 #166

They have the exact opposite reaction than me. morningfog Jan 2014 #178

Same here. Rex Jan 2014 #195

But, were they "sick in their soul"? Otherwise it's not Cha Jan 2014 #197

Oh good grief SunsetDreams Jan 2014 #198

Should make this clear that this was the Facile Five. Then we could ignore it. yellowcanine Jan 2014 #201

Hello pot. This is kettle. You're black. Arkana Jan 2014 #202

You want to hear something worse? Whisp Jan 2014 #203

then enjoy the ego boosting arely staircase Jan 2014 #206