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45. Among the misconceptions being spread about this EO
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 11:25 AM
Mar 2012

As others have pointed out, this is not a "new" EO in the sense that it is an update and restatement of EOs that have been issued for decades. This one specifically supersedes the very similar version issued by the Clinton WH in June 1994.

Nonetheless, a number of statements have been made (largely spurred by the Examiner article) that misrepresent what the EO does and does not do. For example, it has been claimed that this version greatly "expands" the previous versions by, among other things, being applicable during peacetime. In fact, the language referring to "peacetime" in this version is identical to the language in the 1994 EO. Also, the Examiner piece, while acknolwedging that this isn't the first "preparedness" EO, suggests that every previous such EO has sparked a "constitutional crisis" which is laughable.

Are there differences in the wording of this version compared to the previous version? Yes. Many of the changes reflect changes in the organization of government that have occurred since 1994. For example, under the Clinton era EO, there are a number of references to FEMA. But FEMA is no longer a separate agency -- its part of DHS (along with other agencies that previously were either independent or parts of other cabinet departments).

I haven't exhaustively compared the 1994 and 2012 versions, but I have scanned them both and if there are nefarious diffrerences I haven't noticed them. If folks have identified substantive, signficant changes from the 1994 version to this one, I would urge them to post them.

In short, this EO doesn't represent the creation of a "new form of government" and it will not be talked about for ages. Its largely a ministerial action to update something that has been on the books for several decades.

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Here it is on the Whitehouse website... Speck Tater Mar 2012 #1
"If you figure out what it says you might win a prize." Zalatix Mar 2012 #18
Suspicious KT2000 Mar 2012 #2
Nut? Glength Mar 2012 #40
We would have been screaming if BUSH had sign this EO why should we feel comfortable with Justice wanted Mar 2012 #3
OK - so some country KT2000 Mar 2012 #5
Considering our defense budget is $1.030–$1.415 trillion I have a hard time with such EOs Justice wanted Mar 2012 #12
Agree that the defense budget KT2000 Mar 2012 #17
Still. He wants to "Organize" use that defense money. I'm saying with that budget HE shouldn't Justice wanted Mar 2012 #20
You REALLY don't Get It. bvar22 Mar 2012 #34
b is for Bendeta ... I LOVE IT!!! Glength Mar 2012 #41
In 2006, My Wife & I moved to The Woods... bvar22 Mar 2012 #46
I think this is too much control in Executive Branch GregVaroz Mar 2012 #14
The ONLY way I can possible justify this is IF there is going to be a WAR with Iran. Miltary Justice wanted Mar 2012 #15
I believe it establishes a balance of power. Ziggystrange Mar 2012 #29
That is precisely my take n/t malaise Mar 2012 #39
It's not that I worry so much about how this President will use those powers . . . markpkessinger Mar 2012 #47
In varying degrees, every President since Truman has had these powers onenote Mar 2012 #48
Here is the link Ziggystrange Mar 2012 #16
Thank you. nt woo me with science Mar 2012 #35
Read it and i believe KT2000 Mar 2012 #4
I believe its just a standard renewal ... FarPoint Mar 2012 #8
This is the mother of all EO's Ziggystrange Mar 2012 #6
If that were true, who would rejoice? cthulu2016 Mar 2012 #7
Lions and Tigers and Trolls, oh my virtualobserver Mar 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #10
I am agreeing with you! One world Government! Socialism! Fascism! All at once! Tunkamerica Mar 2012 #32
The last few administrations have been enacting sweeping preparedness E.O.'s denbot Mar 2012 #11
Yeah The never ending WAR. think 1984. The Corporations, Uber-Rich and Military complex have Justice wanted Mar 2012 #13
President Obama signs Executive Order allowing for control over all US resources jakeXT Mar 2012 #19
You do realize the Examiner is owned by the wingnuttiest of wingnuts, yes? Major Nikon Mar 2012 #22
Ana Kasparian used to write there regularly alp227 Mar 2012 #37
Sorry, gotta raise the bullshit flag on this one Major Nikon Mar 2012 #21
Signed the Friday of a holiday weekend, a real "news dump" Raine Mar 2012 #23
Exactly! And St. Paddy's day weekend is the perfect time to do it Major Nikon Mar 2012 #24
This is a continuation of a EO signed by Clinton davidpdx Mar 2012 #25
I support Obama on this, you are right but there is more. Ziggystrange Mar 2012 #26
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #27
I was thinking something along the lines of the oil reserves as well davidpdx Mar 2012 #28
My 2 cents Ziggystrange Mar 2012 #30
Welcome to DU davidpdx Mar 2012 #38
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #33
I doubt that the change you highlighted is as significant as you suggest: onenote Mar 2012 #42
Complementary, perhaps. Igel Mar 2012 #36
Hunter S Thompson upi402 Mar 2012 #31
Here: ProSense Mar 2012 #43
Not really new - The MIC is the world's largest socialist enterprise FarCenter Mar 2012 #44
Among the misconceptions being spread about this EO onenote Mar 2012 #45
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