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Showing Original Post only (View all)Amanda Knox should surrender to Italian authorities, The EVIDENCE Is Clear Enough- SHE DID IT. [View all]
Last edited Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:08 PM - Edit history (16)
http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/The_EvidenceHer ex bf was picked up byauthorities today, and released with just confiscation of his passport and drivers license.....why the American media is all so very upset with the Italian justice system and in favor of this twice convicted murderess is beyond me. And I notice that the there is ZERO American outrage over the co-accused Raffaele Sollecito who has gone exactly the same route through the Italian justice system.
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"The family's lawyer (of the murder victim), Francesca Maresca, said: "I hope this is justice for Meredith and for her family."
Raffaele Sollecito Picked Up Near Italian Border After Guilty Verdict, Forced To Surrender Passport
Raffaele Sollecito, convicted with former lover Amanda Knox of the grisly murder of a British student, has been picked up by police near the Italian border and has surrendered his passport.
Police tracked him to a hotel in Venzone, a town in northeast Italy near the Austrian and Slovenian borders, just hours after an appeal court in Florence sentenced him to 25 years in prison, a source at the police station in the nearby city of Udine told AFP.
"Police went to find him in his hotel and he followed them willingly" back to the police station, the source said.
"He is still there now. He is not under arrest. He has to hand over his passport, which can be a lengthy process," he added.
"The Florence verdict is the latest development in more than six years of legal battles which have seen the former lovers convicted in 2009, then acquitted on appeal in 2011 and then, last year, refused a definitive acquittal by the Court of Cassation, which ordered a second appeal, accusing the Perugia appeals court which had annulled the convictions of "numerous deficiencies, contradictions and manifest lack of logic".
There was no "second trial" or "double jeopardy".
"The Florence court began hearing the second appeal in late September. There, prosecutors argued that Knox and Sollecito carried out the murder alongside Rudy Guede, a young man from Ivory Coast who was convicted of the killing and is serving a 16-year sentence following a fast-track trial."
As is standard practice in Italy, the Florence court gave no explanation for its verdict and now has up to 90 days to publish its reasoning.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/31/raffaele-sollecito-passport_n_4701453.html?utm_hp_ref=canada&ir=Canada

"The family's lawyer (of the murder victim), Francesca Maresca, said: "I hope this is justice for Meredith and for her family."
The body of Kercher, a 21-year-old Leeds University student from Coulsdon, Surrey, was found in the bedroom of her shared flat in Perugia on the morning of 2 November 2007. She had been in the first weeks of an Erasmus year in the Umbrian hilltop town.
After the verdict, Knox whose original sentence was for 26 years issued a fiercely critical statement, attacking the Italian justice system and saying she had "expected better".
THIS is Knox's teary explanation in 2011: "I did not kill Meredith Kercher, Im so sorry shes dead, Im so sad for her family, I was with Raf all night and I am angry as heck with Rudy Guede who killed her. She should have had some honest indignation about that, if she believes Guede is the real killer who has caused Merediths death but also Amandas own four year ordeal. Wouldnt you blame the person who had thrown you in prison for a crime you hadnt committed? Instead, she chalks it up to the police and their betrayal of her kind help.
If she were innocent, she would rage against Guede. Its the feelings Amanda doesnt have that speak the loudest. Same with Raffaele."
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Harken To The EVIDENCE, and the admissible EVIDENCE only, shall we?:
The Evidence of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito's Involvement in the Murder of Meredith Kercher
* More Than One Person Attacked the murder victim Meredith Kercher. From the time of Rudy Guede's final sentencing,[1] the Court has accepted that more than one person attacked Meredith Kercher, with an unusually strong report that pointed towards Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito as the other attackers. Meredith was dressed, awake, and standing for the attack, yet did not defend herself. Unusually, she had no defensive wounds but for three tiny (0.24 inch or 6 mm) cuts on her hand[2], indicating an inability to express normal reflexes, flinch from the small cuts to her neck, or attempt to block the incoming blows with her hands or forearms. Indeed, in addition to wounds which fit two different knife profiles[3], she suffered numerous compression or restraint bruises to her elbows, wrists, and face. At the trial, consultants for Knox and Sollecito each proposed a single-attacker scenario but could not agree whether this lone wolf had attacked from the front (Torre, Amanda's consultant) or from behind (Introna, Raffaele's consultant).[4] At the appeal, under Judge Hellmann, Sollecito's defense team introduced two witnesses to testify first, that Guede had acted with two people other than Knox and Sollecito, and second, that two people excluding Guede had carried out the attack after mistakenly entering the home. The Supreme Court faulted Judge Hellmann for ignoring their sentence of Guede and supporting the single-wolf theory, which they found unsupported by the facts. They direct the new Appeals Court in Florence to see what evidence ties Rudy Guede together with Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito in the cottage at the same time.
* Someone RETURNED To Move Meredith. As is detailed by Judge Micheli (who convicted Guede for his part and committed Knox and Sollecito to trial to answer for the evidence of theirs) Meredith's body was discovered in a position and location different from that in which she died, judging by the lividity reported by the medical examiner and an indentation in her shoulder of a bra strap (with a corresponding impression on the floor). She had died and rested on her shoulder to the right of the room, wearing her bra, and was moved to center of the room and her bra discarded at her feet, soaked through but nowhere near any blood. He notes that the blood droplets on the cups show she was wearing the bra while still breathing, but her chest, which the bra had been covering, remained clean, indicating no breaths were being drawn when or after the bra was removed.
* The bra clasp, cut or torn off from the bra the victim was wearing and originally hidden under the victim, had Raffaele's DNA on the hooks. No plausible argument for contamination was successfully made. Stefano Conti, the independent reviewer who testified to this point, could only suppose that "anything is possible." The Supreme Court strongly rejected that finding, and Judge Hellmann's acceptance of it, stating that the contamination must be proven likely, and not merely presented as a hypothetical possibility.
*** The knife recovered at Sollecito's apartment contained the victim and Amanda Knox's DNA.* In her court testimony Carla Vecchiotti, one of the pair of independent experts who reviewed the DNA evidence at the first appeal, as well as forensic scientists from the Scientific Police, ruled out contamination in the laboratory with respect to the knife, owing to the six-day interval since testing items related to the Kercher case. When confronted with the knife DNA result in 2007, Raffaele responded with a fabricated story about accidentally pricking Meredith's hand while they were cooking together. Meredith had never been to his flat, and they had never cooked together.[5] The Supreme Court ruled the Scientific Police's findings must stand, absent any new proof. Another trace containing human DNA was found on the blade of the knife [6] by the independent reviewers, Stefano Conti and Carla Vecchiotti, who argued the trace was too minute too test, even though renowned forensic expert Professor Novelli argued that newer, more sensitive tests would be quite able to successfully test the sample. This test was performed in October 2013 and found to be Knox's DNA.
* A bare footprint made in the victim's blood was discovered on the mat in the bathroom. Rudy's bloody shoe prints lead from Meredith's room directly down the hall and out the front door. The bathroom print, which could not have been made by Rudy Guede, is highly compatible with Raffaele Sollecito's right foot. His defense expert presented a crudely altered footprint diagram in the Massei court, to try to prove it couldn't be his client's, but the judge ruled it was more compatible with Raffaele, and completely ruled out that it could have been Rudy's.
*** Knox's DNA was found mixed with the victim's blood in the room where the burglary was staged, and in the bathroom they shared; some of this blood was Amanda's. Amanda testified that the bathroom was clean the day before the murder.
* Footprints compatible with Knox and Sollecito's, and made in the victim's blood, were discovered when the forensic investigators tested the crime scene with luminol.
*** The burglary was staged, and there is no one other than Knox and Sollecito who would have any motivation to alter the crime scene that way. Broken glass had fallen on top of the scattered objects, meaning the window was broken after the ransacking, and Luminol revealed the presence of two traces of the victim's blood on the floor, showing conclusively that whomever had tracked it in had done so after the girl was dead. Raffaele knew nothing had been stolen in the course of this supposed burglary, assuring the 112 (911) operator of this fact well before the occupant of the room had come home and verified it for herself.[7][8]
***** Amanda Knox INTENTIONALLY and REPEATEDLY lied to Italian police to discourage them from considering Meredith's locked door suspicious. In her email home Amanda relates a scene of rising panic as she and Raffaele shout for Meredith, climb the balcony to try to see in her window, and Raffaele attempts to force the door open, but only splinters the frame. She says it was then they decided to call the cops. Despite all this concern, they did not mention the door, or their worries about Meredith, to the communications police who arrived unexpectedly to return Meredith's discarded cellphones. Filomena and her friends arrived shortly thereafter, and it was Filomena who said that it was not Meredith's habit to lock her door. Amanda falsely offered that this was not true: Meredith had locked it before, even to take a shower. The Supreme Court rules this is in itself proof of an attempt to prevent the discovery of the body, with all the implications that has for her guilt.
* Knox and Sollecito's alibis are contradicted by each other, by physical evidence and by witness testimony. While this does not directly implicate them in the murder, they have clearly lied about what they did on the night of the murder and the following morning. It is inconceivable that they would risk lying about their activities if they were not involved in Meredith's murder. It is one thing to claim they cannot remember due to the influence of drugs. It is another to knowingly lie. The recent ruling confirms that they lied repeatedly.
* Raffaele withdrew support for Knox's alibi, claiming that he lied at her request. He elected to not testify, and he refused to confirm that Knox was with him the night of the murder, for the entire trial. Confronted with the news that Raffaele had ceased to support her alibi, Knox quickly changed her story, placing herself at the cottage and falsely accusing an innocent man of committing the deed.
* Amanda Knox's false accusation of her boss Patrick Lumumba. The appeals court has been directed by the Supreme Court to seriously consider this as yet more evidence of her guilt.
http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/The_Evidence
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Amanda Knox should surrender to Italian authorities, The EVIDENCE Is Clear Enough- SHE DID IT. [View all]
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
OP
Knox has been duly convicted by the law of a Western legal system...do you think people should
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#9
Actually, he "flew" across the border and then flew back again and spent the night
pnwmom
May 2014
#231
Pray tell, WHY are they a joke? Fox News type baseless assertions do not belong here.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#10
Right to a speedy trial, you may have a point there, but this is not double jeapordy.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#87
You seriously need to do your research before trying to slyly slander other posters
DragonBorn
Jan 2014
#51
Mignini was up to his eyeballs in the Monster of Florence case, attacking journalists
pnwmom
May 2014
#205
Do they allow cameras in the courtroom? There seems to be a lot of contradictions thrown around
adirondacker
Feb 2014
#183
Their alibi was that they were in his cottage, watching a movie on TV. Raffaele had also been doing
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#185
Thanks! I think the general public is unaware of the rigging, evidence tampering
adirondacker
Feb 2014
#191
No his ruling completely disregarded the 10,000 pages of hard & circumstantial evidence against them
corpus_vile
May 2014
#234
It is a hate site filled with lies about the case. That is why its writers finally got expelled
pnwmom
May 2014
#201
I have read the Nencini report, as translated by Luca Cheli, the Hellman report,
pnwmom
May 2014
#219
Which assumes the so called "Murder room" was the actual crime scene. It wasn't.
corpus_vile
May 2014
#235
Oh, were you there? Both prosecutors say that room was where the murder was carried out,
pnwmom
May 2014
#239
That is not what I said. I said the opposite. Wikipedia's Jim Wales threw out the editors
pnwmom
May 2014
#250
P.S. "Knox has been convicted, allowed an appeal and convicted again during a retrial."
pnwmom
May 2014
#240
You have it backwards. No one needs to produce proof of Amanda and Raffaele's innocence.
pnwmom
May 2014
#254
An excellent DU post (by pmwmom) on why the Italian court's claims are nonsense:
tblue37
May 2014
#210
well, since the court of law that applies here is in Italy not the U.S.
WilmywoodNCparalegal
Feb 2014
#184
Well, having sex and partying are gateway vices. Murderess-ing is the next logical step...
Squinch
Jan 2014
#153
Good Article-it is clear that the case against Knox would not stand up in the United States
Gothmog
Jan 2014
#114
Try reading the appeals verdict, which explains why the first verdict was a pile of crap. n/t
pnwmom
Jan 2014
#73
The same prosecutor, during the investigation of the Monster of Florence, accused the
Squinch
Jan 2014
#100
Italians are laughing at the American justice system, remember George Zimmerman, so the whole
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#57
Just because our justice system has it flaws, sometimes sucks and gets it wrong too,
Liberalynn
Jan 2014
#69
Do you know of the case where a white man shot a black kid carrying Skittles in Florida?
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#84
Ya know what? I'd rather 5 Zimmerman's go free than to embrace the Italian kangaroo courts.
Adrahil
Jan 2014
#106
This post is awesome. You captured the typical troll voice perfectly! The triumphant all-caps
anneboleyn
Feb 2014
#167
What's "effusively moronic" is thinking use of the word "effusively" somehow makes your argument
Nuclear Unicorn
Jan 2014
#119
No one really knows what happened and the prosecutors have had so many theories and botched or
OregonBlue
Jan 2014
#75
A difference of opinion based on the admitted evidence is now a "troll game"?
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#80
Good Lord, how many people do not understand there was ONE Trial, two appeals?
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#83
There was one trial. She was convicted. There have been two APPEALS. NOT double jeapordy.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#94
The court reinstated a guilty verdict first handed down against Knox and Raffaele Sollecito in 2009.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#98
I, and Prof Julian Ku, who teaches transnational law at Hofstra University in New York,
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#109
Name one and his/rational based on the extradition treaty, I would welcome it, sir.
Fred Sanders
Jan 2014
#112
I have no idea whether she's guilty or not, but your "evidence" is garbage...
joeybee12
Jan 2014
#103
Freddy doesn't want facts to get in the way of his made up mind-what there is of it.
hobbit709
Jan 2014
#108
The concept of the burden of proof being beyond a reasonable doubt is not part of Italian system
Gothmog
Jan 2014
#133
There are a number of lawyers on this board who do know how to evaluate evidence
Gothmog
Jan 2014
#137
I don't think she should surrender to Italian authorities. It would be silly.
Captain Stern
Jan 2014
#154
You obviously missed where she alleges sexual abuse among one of the guards
davidn3600
Jan 2014
#160
Oh, HER allegations without proof or trial are CREDIBLE, are they now? No bias there!
WinkyDink
Feb 2014
#170
Is that supposed to be a bad thing? Hello, OJ, Gitmo, Zimmie, JonBenet, ......
WinkyDink
Feb 2014
#171
TL/DR but the police work was shoddy, there was no evidence, she was let go once, and
MADem
May 2014
#202
We don't extradite for that, and Italy won't expect us to, either. They know how we roll.
MADem
May 2014
#207
I am basing my opinion on how State views double jeopardy from an American court's perspective.
MADem
May 2014
#241
I said they can -- but only for technical reasons, as in the Delay case. Not based on
pnwmom
May 2014
#229
The ECHR will rule that Amanda's and Raffaele's civil rights were denied when they
pnwmom
May 2014
#238
I'm going to continue to speak up for the truth while people spread their hate.
pnwmom
May 2014
#248