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fredamae

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20. The Science Is Here
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:04 AM
Feb 2014

DEA ALJ in 1988 issued this Findings of Fact:
"5. This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.

6. By contrast aspirin, a commonly used, over-the-counter medicine, causes hundreds of deaths each year.

7. Drugs used in medicine are routinely given what is called an LD-50. The LD-50 rating indicates at what dosage fifty percent of test animals receiving a drug will die as a result of drug induced toxicity. A number of researchers have attempted to determine marijuana's LD-50 rating in test animals, without success. Simply stated, researchers have been unable to give animals enough marijuana to induce death.

8. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around

1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in onemarijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response.

9. In practical terms, marijuana cannot induce a lethal response as a result of drug-related toxicity.


16. Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man. By any measure of rational analysis marijuana can be safely used within a supervised routine of medical care."

http://www.ccguide.org/young88.php


And What About the FEDERAL Medical Marijuana Program? Huh? They haven't tracked and studied these people after growing and supplying Them Cannabis Medicine by Mail all these decades?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compassionate_Investigational_New_Drug_program

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du rec. xchrom Feb 2014 #1
“not likely given current science.” So it's science's fault! leeroysphitz Feb 2014 #2
Which is saying Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #3
If the President hadn't admitted he smoked pot as a kid . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #4
Change the schedule for it Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #5
I agree completely, that should be done. another_liberal Feb 2014 #28
Mean Republicans... must not upset them Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #32
Politically what? Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #46
I think he still has two years in his term. another_liberal Feb 2014 #53
So, let's say he decides to remove cannabis from Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #59
Perhaps you are right . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #63
Banal or not, it's the only explantion that makes sense. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #69
Exactly! nt mimi85 Feb 2014 #6
Why is that? Clinton copped to toking, as did W Bush, Laura Bush, Al and Tipper Gore Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #8
Did Clinton come out for legalization while he was President? another_liberal Feb 2014 #26
When Clinton was president, there was not over 50% Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #50
The question was posed by Bluenorthwest . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #54
I understand but this is a message board Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #62
And here is the question I put to you, you go first as I asked you first. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #73
Of course not . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #88
And what the fuck is with the word 'admitted'? You mean he included, unprompted and Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #10
I had not known the bit about cocaine. That was smart though. another_liberal Feb 2014 #22
That doesn't make sense. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #21
"We worry way too much about the right wing." another_liberal Feb 2014 #33
"if he feels that is not the cause to champion at this time." NCTraveler Feb 2014 #35
Surely we agree on the basic facts of this issue? another_liberal Feb 2014 #37
Nothing there was an insult. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #45
It is not I who is "disconnected." another_liberal Feb 2014 #47
You are almost correct. What I know about you is what you post. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Feb 2014 #58
I'm glad to know . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #64
We should all be. That brings us back to... NCTraveler Feb 2014 #79
You exaggerate, repeatedly, but that is your prerogative. another_liberal Feb 2014 #86
that's a cheap excuse for his dissembling. and it's absolute nonsense cali Feb 2014 #25
That's just how I see his reasoning. another_liberal Feb 2014 #29
A little more harsh than what I said up thread. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #36
So what? He is NOT running again. They hate him anyway. So - so what? djean111 Feb 2014 #42
By that standard, none of the last three Presidents truebluegreen Feb 2014 #49
Except that Congressional mid-term elections are this year. another_liberal Feb 2014 #90
Changing marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III truebluegreen Feb 2014 #91
I sincerely hope you are proven right on this point. another_liberal Feb 2014 #93
That's the worst thing about it: truebluegreen Feb 2014 #95
The right-wing accused the Clintons of murder. Surely Obama... WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #78
I do not disagree with any of that. another_liberal Feb 2014 #89
The timing couldn't be more perfect... WorseBeforeBetter Feb 2014 #97
I don't like being misinformed by the president jopacaco Feb 2014 #7
You have not been misinformed by President Obama ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #15
absolute baloney. is there anything that you wouldn't support Obama on? cali Feb 2014 #27
You say "baloney"; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #41
The law states that the president Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #55
Sorry, the President is incorrect and it's not the press but elected Democrats instructing Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #31
I have read the CSA, several time ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #39
There is no treaty that dictates scheduling of cannabis. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #74
But your reading of the Single Convention is incorrect RainDog Feb 2014 #82
+1 truebluegreen Feb 2014 #51
Welcome (back) to Du! Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #76
Potato chips are subject to abuse. ananda Feb 2014 #9
As Obama illustrates, the truth is subject to abuse. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #12
The man is too smart Brewinblue Feb 2014 #11
the last 3 presidents smoked pot and not one of them has done B Calm Feb 2014 #13
This narrative has been refuted ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #14
The Controlled Substances Act provides for a rulemaking process by which the AG Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #23
Ummm, wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #34
You are incorrect. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #38
So ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #48
Can you cite a treaty in which the US agrees to keep cannabis Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #44
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #65
The OP and discussion are about rescheduling and the processes to do that. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #72
Yeah, it's kind of amazing people here are trying to excuse inaction Chathamization Feb 2014 #80
The Single Convention isn't binding if it contradicts a nation's constitutional laws RainDog Feb 2014 #81
"Refutation" refuted. (edited) Cerridwen Feb 2014 #60
Can you provide a word or 16 that preceed that snippet? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #67
Fixed in post. Broken formatting. n/t Cerridwen Feb 2014 #68
PBO might be waffling a bit on this issue for now. nilesobek Feb 2014 #16
Today's pot is not your daddy's pot. And Obama is entitled to opinions just as we are. nt kelliekat44 Feb 2014 #17
That's such a hilarious, meaningless right wing trope. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #18
Is there a Reefer Madness II? HappyMe Feb 2014 #30
I smoked pot since 1969. Today's pot is no different than B Calm Feb 2014 #71
Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore. Says Obama Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #19
Earl is a great Democrat and he is correct where the President is so painfully wrong. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #24
The Science Is Here fredamae Feb 2014 #20
Exactly. The scientific research already exists in the records of our nation RainDog Feb 2014 #83
Maybe ProSense Feb 2014 #40
Pat Leahy has been the Democrat most active in the Senate thus far Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #70
A president (Nixon) ordered cannabis' Schedule I designation Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #43
A manager Ichingcarpenter Feb 2014 #52
Even worse, Nixon did it after tossing out a study he ordered truebluegreen Feb 2014 #56
Jared Polis introduced a bill to end marijuana prohibition... ProSense Feb 2014 #61
an issue the prez could get on the right side of history about. KG Feb 2014 #66
nothing will change until the pro pot lobby has more $$$$ than the anti pot... RedstDem Feb 2014 #75
There is actually an international treaty - Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs 1961. djean111 Feb 2014 #77
He is such a wuss sometimes. Vattel Feb 2014 #84
Showing his lack of spine (again). He'll fast track TPP, but won't touch mj Doctor_J Feb 2014 #85
Big Pharma is watching. jsr Feb 2014 #87
Being in prison can be a health risk too Mr. President! L0oniX Feb 2014 #92
And give away a perfectly good social issue? C'mon. Marr Feb 2014 #94
kick woo me with science Feb 2014 #96
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