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In reply to the discussion: What's your favorite Woody Allen movie? [View all]pnwmom
(110,253 posts)241. Not several times. She panicked after she saw how upset everyone got and
pretended he had only touched her shoulder. Then she went back to her first story and stuck to it. It's the same account she's giving today.
There were also employees who were ready to testify about inappropriate behavior they had seen. It wasn't only the girl's word and Mia's.
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Yes, you "read" my reply wrong and posted a deeply offensive comment with no provocation.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#112
If they're not his kids, yes I'm defending that right. As does the law of NY and every other state.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#133
Since you seem determined to insinuate that I support child rape, this discussion is over.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#185
Yep. You post tea party style smears and accusations with no regard for truth.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#196
He was the partner of Mia and a father-figure to all the kids -- so psychologically speaking he was
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#147
That link supports what I said, not what you're claiming. Thanks, though, it was interesting.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#160
So you didn't read the part that talks about how Allen had little to do with the other children.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#180
From HIS perspective he had little to do with them. But from THEIR perspective,
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#187
Yes, I did, although I skimmed much of it. Did it mention the brother? I was looking for the answer
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#190
You managed to skim right over anything that didn't agree with your preconceived notions.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#197
You don't have to read EVERY article to have an opinion. I've read a number over the years,
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#236
Yet you asked for information it provides AFTER I gave you the link and you said you read it.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#240
Yes, it did address it. Again you didn't read the article you claimed you did.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#249
I'm not saying Woody should go to prison or even to trial. But I don't have to respect him,
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#251
I don't know why Mia did anything, or if she did. It's the young woman I believe. nt
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#259
So you don't care if Mia Farrow brainwashed her children? that's what her own child claims.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#266
Moses is one child who obviously wasn't there when Allen was molesting his sister.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#270
How can you say I'm ignoring "all the proof that he didn't do it." All these years later,
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#290
I know this is hard but a lack of PROOF generally leans toward innocence.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#295
Of course it does -- in a TRIAL. But not in real life. In real life, all it is is a lack of proof.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#300
Ah! So we should condemn anyone accused of molestation regardless of a lack of evidence.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#308
Why do you continue to put words in my mouth? I said repeatedly that I don't think he should
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#320
You realize, of course...that Moses Farrow is a licensed family therapist. So if he uses the
msanthrope
Feb 2014
#371
scarily invested in proving his innocence. sad that he'll never be able to....
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#336
I can't help what you choose to believe based on two photos without context.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#408
Dylan also changed her story several times. You forgot to mention that part.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#176
I read about it in one of the Vanity Fair articles. And, as I said, I reserved judgement when it was
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#246
So you're calling Moses Farrow a liar? Or is he not quite as believable for some reason?
last1standing
Feb 2014
#248
Moses Farrow can't speak to what happened to the sister who was 7 when he was 17.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#250
So the 17 year old is mistaken while the 7 year old is absolutely right.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#252
The 17 year old can't speak for what happened in private to his younger sister. He wasn't there. n/t
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#256
She was an adult and you tried to mislead people into thinking she was underaged by being vague.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#305
He was 55, and the legal father of three of her siblings. It doesn't matter legally whether
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#309
Then where's your condemnation Frank Sinatra and the millions of other spring/autumn relationships?
last1standing
Feb 2014
#311
Frank Sinatra didn't marry the sister of his kids. That's the part you keep glossing over.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#315
Allen got involved with the adopted full-grown adult sister of his kids.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#319
It doesn't matter that she was a young adult. Not to the kids. She was their sister.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#321
Mia didn't invent the incest taboo, and it doesn't matter psychologically if a sibling is adopted.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#324
There was no incest. There was nothing approaching incest. Why post deceptions like that?
last1standing
Feb 2014
#326
It is psychological incest when a father has sex with your sister, even if it isn't legal incest.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#329
Strange how he found probably cause when the actual investigators found no evidence whatsoever
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#366
Yes, it's normal. It may not be your normal but for millions of others it is.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#347
it's normal for men with money and power to do whatever the fuck they want, betray their partners...
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#353
They've been together 20 years -- much longer than Farrow was with Allen. When will the
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#368
Once again (and again and again) if you had read the article you'd have your answer.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#257
I read the article -- and I've read other articles written by authors who disagree with this guy.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#312
For fuck's sake. You've already admitted that you didn't read it after claiming you did.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#314
I've had time to read it again in the last hour. And I also read the most recent V.F. article.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#318
I said Allen didn't have much to do with the "other kids" meaning those not his own.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#322
That doesn't change how they regarded him. And it doesn't lessen the effect his behavior had
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#325
Woody has a history of molesting a 7 year old girl who is now 26 and can speak for herself.
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#145
You protect real pedophiles because you hate men who date younger women.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#402
No. He never lived with his step daughter. If you claim otherwise you are spreading untruths.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#45
Again, Soon-Yi was never allen's step daughter. I've mentioned this before.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#56
No, I don't. But Mia Farrow does. She supports her child molester brother as well.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#116
You seem to have no problem with Mia Farrow who defends convicted child molesters.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#123
"Why are you defending Allen when he is a pedophile?" This is the real question.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#38
When one is raped at 7 by one's father, and the state finds probable cause, and the child
Squinch
Feb 2014
#19
Her story changed several times which is one of the reasons she wasn't believable.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#24
No, you are posting misrepresentations and statements from an official who was repremanded for it.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#39
Link that. I am linking sources, and you are simply saying, "no, no, you are hateful."
Squinch
Feb 2014
#63
LOL! I see you only accept the fact you want to accept. Anything else is opinion.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#172
And others of her children, and friends and family, and psychologists, have said that he was not
Squinch
Feb 2014
#192
LOL! You can't be real. No one could post what you have and not see how they look.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#222
You too. Make sure to count the ways adults aren't allowed to have sex before you sleep.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#231
There was no physical evidence of rape, but don't let that stop you. And please don't tell
El_Johns
Feb 2014
#373
You seem to think that being aggressively certain about things you can't know makes you moral.
cthulu2016
Feb 2014
#12
You responded to the wrong post. Your response seems to fit better if directed to post #5.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#28
I suppose the state of Connecticut was brainwashed too, when they found probable cause?
Squinch
Feb 2014
#22
Delusions are not false testimony, they are delusions. Quote. And delusions are not the same as
WCLinolVir
Feb 2014
#223
She's a woman, which makes me believe it even more. It's disturbing and sad. nt
adirondacker
Feb 2014
#60
huh? i believe her too but what's being a woman have to do with it? if the victim was male
dionysus
Feb 2014
#129
I took that to mean that she is now grown, she is no longer a child, and her story hasn't changed.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#153
No, that wasn't my intention and sorry if it came out that way. I was attempting to state that she
adirondacker
Feb 2014
#162
It's creepy how there's always people rushing to defend celebrity child molesters. n/t
eShirl
Feb 2014
#18
It's even creepier how there are always people rushing to condemn innocent people.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#20
If you want to believe a story that has never been proved then be sickened.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#114
there is no doubting that Woody pursued the young adopted daughter of his longtime partner
Skittles
Feb 2014
#124
He pursued an adult woman who was adopted by Mia Farrow and her husband (not Allen).
last1standing
Feb 2014
#126
Nope. Merely pointed out that homophobes use the same logic to condemn consenting adults.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#199
You should ask yourself why you post things that aren't true and use them as facts.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#210
What part of "adult" did you choose to ignore first when posting this bullshit?
last1standing
Feb 2014
#403
A "desire to be oppressed"? Sure, bud. Go into the LGBT group here and repeat that. I'm sure you
cinnabonbon
Feb 2014
#400
Aww! Look at you try to change the subject and still act like I wrote something I didn't.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#401
Actually, the facts show that a panel of psychiatrists, without ever speaking to her,
pnwmom
Feb 2014
#173
Clearly. They're like snarling dogs. Because someone has reported that her father molested her.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#31
And there was trouble with his behavior with Dylan from the time she was very young,
Squinch
Feb 2014
#68
the rich famous ones run to Europe. Wood and that Polanski skeevy dirtbag shitstain.
Whisp
Feb 2014
#36
"Nick Kristof doesn't shovel shit." Well, he must have no relation with one
Chathamization
Feb 2014
#310
or Altman, Scorcese. I'd actually put Tarantino and Spielberg above Woody now that he does caper
bettyellen
Feb 2014
#254
The unmade Disney sequel - Honey, I Married the Kid. Bananas or Take the money and Run.
marble falls
Feb 2014
#102
The poor kid, and how brave she is to speak out. Healing to be whole, I hope she succeeds.
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#110
With Soon Yi, no boundries in place. To listen to Woody, the relationship makes sense, ugh:
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#139
Thanks, I have already read it. Dylan has my support..which is meaningless, I know.
Jefferson23
Feb 2014
#168
that is a very good article that everyone should read before they solidify their opinions
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2014
#277
"...sexual abuse and emotional traumas are not rational issues..." - Worst post in this thread.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#356
In the midst of a witch hunt, it also requires courage to defend someone who could be innocent.
Bonobo
Feb 2014
#171
Uh, guess you should know at what age Woody started taking pictures of her nude. HINT she was not an
WCLinolVir
Feb 2014
#200
Actually, I think the pictures were discovered in 92, when Soon-yi was 19.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#215
According to what I read at the time, she was a minor and still living with her mother when they
WCLinolVir
Feb 2014
#413
The "judge and jury in one" posters forget that Allen is innocent until proved guilty.
last1standing
Feb 2014
#202
To any who can't understand why rapes and sexual assaults often go unreported, read this thread!
Squinch
Feb 2014
#194
There's a good amount of evidence suggesting these were implanted memories.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#209
The prosecutor said he had sufficient cause to charge him, but decided not to bring the
Squinch
Feb 2014
#216
Yes, I believe based on the totally anecdotal evidence that it is more likely false memory.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#294
No, you're wrong. This is not the same as all other cases of shaming victims.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#302
And what you simply don't understand is that YOUR conclusion, however you have come to it,
Squinch
Feb 2014
#372
And I am horrifyingly sure that this is the attitude that sex assault victims come up
Squinch
Feb 2014
#288
And when I say she has a right to be heard, you say that I am being deceptive.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#286
Wrong. Totally wrong. Don't try and shame me for something I didn't say.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#289
"I will not put up with such garbage" is a ridiculous thing to say. What does that even mean?
Squinch
Feb 2014
#292
It means I'm not going to let you lecture me on the gross underreporting of sexual assault.
Gravitycollapse
Feb 2014
#299
It is not for you to "let" or "not let" anyone here do anything. You are not in a position to
Squinch
Feb 2014
#374
It would have been better if they prosecuted it, but the timing of this is probably just as good.
lostincalifornia
Feb 2014
#239