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Gravitycollapse

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45. "Astrology and theism have never been instrumental to science" - Patently false.
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 04:37 AM
Feb 2014

But you keep on believing that if it makes you happy.

The belief in God, astrology and intelligent design were, at various points in history, evidenced based. How we define evidence now is what has changed. Although astrology is a cleaner example since it's not quite as historically significant, and thus not quite as vast to address, and, much like phrenology, was in vogue among scientific and philosophical circles, academic and social, for a very long time. And it absolutely helped contribute to scientific understanding. In the case of astrology, it was a fundamental pretext to astronomical observation and even the development of what could be referred to as proto-psychology.

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Genius. That ad will make people abandon their religion in droves. (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #1
Not one ad... MellowDem Feb 2014 #7
not a whole lot of help for the people who are already "convinced" (that was a nice word :) ) snooper2 Feb 2014 #53
I wish they would have focused the ad more LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #2
I know I'm a good person.. I've had many Cha Feb 2014 #16
I feel the same way. bravenak Feb 2014 #28
Everyone I know.. even my son is(that doesn't include going to Church though).. Cha Feb 2014 #39
I havent believed in over a decade LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #29
Totally agree, LostOne4Ever! Cha Feb 2014 #36
This says it all for me ... napkinz Feb 2014 #60
Precisely~ Cha Feb 2014 #63
This is exactly Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #3
It's not the same as religious fundamentalism... MellowDem Feb 2014 #8
A "Hail Mary" is about as religious as someone screaming Jesus Christ... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #21
Not to many devout Christians... MellowDem Feb 2014 #25
The ad is addressing the football game, not a mass of Catholics. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #27
It's not poking them in the eye... MellowDem Feb 2014 #33
No doubt about it, religion gets many passes. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #38
Astrology and theism have never been instrumental to science... MellowDem Feb 2014 #43
"Astrology and theism have never been instrumental to science" - Patently false. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #45
Astrology and theism aren't science... MellowDem Feb 2014 #48
Of course they aren't science. Astrology is pseudoscience. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #50
Throughout history there have been many endeavors financed by organized religion Major Nikon Feb 2014 #58
LOL linuxman Feb 2014 #4
self righteous satisfaction. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #5
It's normalizing the idea of mocking religion... MellowDem Feb 2014 #9
love it. Whisp Feb 2014 #6
I don't understand why they have to attack what other people believe. Skip Intro Feb 2014 #10
Well, I think it works fine! nt Logical Feb 2014 #11
the answer is...other "starved-for-attention Union Scribe Feb 2014 #14
no, just opening the eyes of young folks snooper2 Feb 2014 #54
Because those beliefs are worthy of ridicule... MellowDem Feb 2014 #19
You think DU is dedicated to bashing Christainity? Skip Intro Feb 2014 #65
No, read it again... MellowDem Feb 2014 #75
where's that South bashing you said I did? CreekDog Feb 2014 #70
Even as a host of GD you're going to chase me around the board? Skip Intro Feb 2014 #71
sounds like you don't have a link CreekDog Feb 2014 #72
Go find somebody else to bug, CreekDog. Skip Intro Feb 2014 #73
sounds like you don't have confidence in your assertions CreekDog Feb 2014 #74
religiosity doesn’t like criticism! yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2014 #12
Proselytizing, it's not just for breakfast--er, religion--anymore. nt Union Scribe Feb 2014 #13
It never has been... MellowDem Feb 2014 #20
Just because something is ridicule does not mean it's intelligent or reasoned. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #23
There's nothing assholish about it... MellowDem Feb 2014 #26
Reminds me of the "free thinkers" I often ran into on campus. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #30
DU reminds you of them? MellowDem Feb 2014 #37
So offense is always a sign of insecurity? That is an incredibly privileged position to take. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #41
Strawman time? MellowDem Feb 2014 #44
I doubt it will ruin the game. I doubt most will even notice it. Which is good. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #46
Pseudoscience is simply a claim, practice etc. presented as science... MellowDem Feb 2014 #49
Pseudoscience is most often a once scientifically valid field... Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #51
It was called the "Dark Ages"! yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2014 #55
Reply #'s 2 & 3 about sum it up for me. Atheists.org??...and a *convention*??? Ghost in the Machine Feb 2014 #15
Some atheists believe religious belief harms others inherently... MellowDem Feb 2014 #22
I've never met an atheist who thought "religious belief harms others inherently." Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #24
I've met quite a few, and I'm one of them myself... MellowDem Feb 2014 #31
Oh, believe me, you're confusing a lot of things. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #34
Why should I believe you? MellowDem Feb 2014 #40
You said religious belief inherently harms others. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #42
It's a load of bull why? MellowDem Feb 2014 #47
You're confusing wrong with harmful. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #52
Beliefs are fine, faith is a problem though, it elevates gullibility to a virtue... Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #77
I absolutely agree critical thinking skills need to be expanded. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #80
Religious beliefs are based on faith, they are beliefs without evidence, and... Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #81
Hi, my name is Chris. I am an anti-theist.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #57
I have met non-believers that think religious beliefs harm others. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #69
I can usually tell the difference between an atheist & what I call a "hatetheist"... Ghost in the Machine Feb 2014 #59
That's pretty cool. I like it n/t Violet_Crumble Feb 2014 #17
This is why we can't have nice things. Gravitycollapse Feb 2014 #18
If people can knock at my door at 8 am on Sunday and bother me with tall tales. bravenak Feb 2014 #32
And that's the spirit pf America defacto7 Feb 2014 #35
Probably could have used that for something other... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #56
Silly. God never misses a game and decides the outcome before it's played. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2014 #61
They need a new marketing director. Throd Feb 2014 #62
Next up: "MUHAMMED WAS JUST SOME DUDE! DON'T WASTE TIME PRAYING TO MECCA!" Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #64
Yeah, wake me whent that happens. nt Skip Intro Feb 2014 #68
Is this close enough? Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #78
Bummer. I support debunking religious belief. I just wish they'd have come up Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2014 #66
I agree with you, the Athiests need to come up with better slogans, yortsed snacilbuper Feb 2014 #67
i'm an atheist and i don't feel a need DesertFlower Feb 2014 #76
Proselytizing Atheists Riftaxe Feb 2014 #79
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