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hootinholler

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23. I'd like to see the studies behind your claim about dieing from narcotic abuse

Sun Feb 2, 2014, 01:56 PM

Feb 2014

Who are those who die from that? I suspect they are obtaining black market narcotics as well.

The GPs are coming under scrutiny as well, but the front line of 'enforcement' is the ER. The Dr should be focusing on giving proper care to the immediate problem in the ER. They do not need a nanny looking over their shoulder forcing them to treat a secondary condition that may or may not be presenting.

In my experience narcotics are much less addictive when there is actual pain involved. Even if a patient is a seeker, go ahead and write the script, limit the amount and let the script history speak towards abuse or not.

Is abuse a problem? Hell yes, but the larger problem is the lack of pain management.

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My Emergency Room Horror Story [View all] rbrnmw Feb 2014 OP

So sorry.... CherokeeDem Feb 2014 #1

I'm thinking actually having a fracture is good cause to believe you 2pooped2pop Feb 2014 #2

Whe you asked if they thought I was throwing myself around for drugs rbrnmw Feb 2014 #21

I agree. Aristus Feb 2014 #26

I am sure that good DR's see their fair share rbrnmw Feb 2014 #34

Yeah. Waiting a little longer for the x-ray results would have Aristus Feb 2014 #37

to be fair this is Ohio rbrnmw Feb 2014 #40

I wanted to change from my primary physician to another one truedelphi Feb 2014 #75

I thought tramadol was not addictive nor a narcotic cally Feb 2014 #80

Yes, it is. Aristus Feb 2014 #81

thanks cally Feb 2014 #83

Maybe they are just making business for the Addiction Specialist siligut Feb 2014 #3

I know this is truly frustrating onlyadream Feb 2014 #4

This behavior by an M.D. is unprofessional rbrnmw Feb 2014 #5

It's not uncommon: jsr Feb 2014 #6

I can tell you #1 without even looking at the link. Barack_America Feb 2014 #9

Unless you are a nurse tavalon Feb 2014 #39

If you're asking specifically, I'm an MD. Barack_America Feb 2014 #43

As someone who has semi frequent neck pain Egnever Feb 2014 #53

I'm a big believer in the often over-looked Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation field. Barack_America Feb 2014 #59

Just be aware that untreated pain is fatal Warpy Feb 2014 #61

I'm not saying I wouldn't treat. Barack_America Feb 2014 #62

Really? All the junkies I knew back in Boston Warpy Feb 2014 #72

well the NYU back specialist I went to recommended NO physical therapy at all- even though he said bettyellen Feb 2014 #69

The effectiveness of Toradol is often underrated. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #55

Toradol is wonderful. I've got a surgery coming up and will be requesting it by name. Barack_America Feb 2014 #57

I totally agree Toradol works much better rbrnmw Feb 2014 #65

OMG how horrible. rbrnmw Feb 2014 #16

The brain cancer patient that he thought was a drug seeker...? ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #20

The real malpractice there was not taking a good enough history... Barack_America Feb 2014 #25

Completely agreed, which is why I wish her family had looked into it. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #27

Many hospitals have policies on this now. Barack_America Feb 2014 #7

When the addiction specialist came in.... Adrahil Feb 2014 #11

The M.D. didn't have to use that disgusting tone of voice rbrnmw Feb 2014 #18

Then you should absolutely complain. Barack_America Feb 2014 #22

I think because of the surgery and the incident rbrnmw Feb 2014 #24

This is out of control hootinholler Feb 2014 #8

HIPPA allows healthcare professionals to share pt info as it relates to pt care siligut Feb 2014 #17

Prescriptions of narcotics for chronic pain is also out of control. Barack_America Feb 2014 #19

I'd like to see the studies behind your claim about dieing from narcotic abuse hootinholler Feb 2014 #23

CDC- 3/4 prescription drug overdoses caused by prescribed narcotics. Barack_America Feb 2014 #29

Holy crap! I would write letter to the administrator of that hospital Adrahil Feb 2014 #10

Do NOT pay the bill. Write a letter to Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #12

First, call your GP and get your hip treated. Second, call a personal injury lawyer. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #13

... WhiteTara Feb 2014 #14

That's just horrible. polly7 Feb 2014 #15

After reading all the links shared above rbrnmw Feb 2014 #28

Exactly! tavalon Feb 2014 #38

That is a ridiculous statement. Plenty of drug seekers come through the ED. Barack_America Feb 2014 #45

I'm sorry, I have to disagree with you on that, except in the absolute sense Aristus Feb 2014 #76

An ex-MIL of mine would visit a different ER every weekend madville Feb 2014 #82

I'm not saying that doesn't happen tavalon Feb 2014 #85

BTW I still have meds from surgery and from when mom died rbrnmw Feb 2014 #30

I'd be tempted to surrender them to the ED doc. Barack_America Feb 2014 #31

That's a good idea rbrnmw Feb 2014 #32

and ask him to check your LittleGirl Feb 2014 #33

You need to file a complaint with the hospital. Shrike47 Feb 2014 #35

That bullshit happens more than you might imagine tavalon Feb 2014 #36

He did release me with Ultram rbrnmw Feb 2014 #41

I had a similar and yet different experience once in an ER tavalon Feb 2014 #42

Why would they assume that? Helen Borg Feb 2014 #44

Maybe because this is Ohio rbrnmw Feb 2014 #48

Don't you love docs who know it all before they examine you? proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #46

It appears to be a common enough malady in Doctors. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #78

I have had similar... PsychGrad Feb 2014 #47

My pain was so bad from the sorefeet Feb 2014 #49

That is horrible, and thanks for sharing your experience! MissB Feb 2014 #50

Wonder why they didn't just drug test me rbrnmw Feb 2014 #51

Jesus H Christ on a trailer hitch! Warpy Feb 2014 #52

How do you tell a �junkie� from a person who�s in pain? Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #54

He DID treat my pain I was given Toradol rbrnmw Feb 2014 #56

I think using"horror story" and "emergency room" in the same phrase is redundent. hedgehog Feb 2014 #58

well my eyes are now wide open rbrnmw Feb 2014 #60

I have an autoimmune disease treated symptomatically with hedgehog Feb 2014 #71

This whole thing makes me afraid to ask for Soma. MrsKirkley Feb 2014 #63

The DEA is getting ready for cannabis legalization Fumesucker Feb 2014 #64

this is probably very true rbrnmw Feb 2014 #66

Without them having EVERY detail of your medical history and why medications were prescribed, bluestate10 Feb 2014 #67

maybe true but why not ask? rbrnmw Feb 2014 #70

Awful. elleng Feb 2014 #68

wow. what a horrible experience Liberal_in_LA Feb 2014 #73

What a bunch of fucking assholes REP Feb 2014 #74

it is CYA and doing things by rote demigoddess Feb 2014 #77

it was the rush to judgement and arrogant tone rbrnmw Feb 2014 #79

So sorry this happened to you TuxedoKat Feb 2014 #84