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104. oh yeah, let's talk about pot privlege and Elm trees! NOPE. Not until you stop acting the fool.

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There's been a lot of talk here lately about "privilege", so it may be useful to define it ... [View all] Scuba Jan 2014 OP

only in that men have all of it and apparently women have none leftyohiolib Jan 2014 #1

You gotta use it or you lose it! pocoloco Jan 2014 #4

That is accurate on a societal level; are you disputing it? el_bryanto Jan 2014 #6

He said "all" and "none" tkmorris Jan 2014 #10

Please give an example where Black folks (or Hispanics, or Native Americans) hold privilege. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #11

Within a limited context - in a predominately Black area or location el_bryanto Jan 2014 #13

Privilege is not about "Comfort" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #15

apparently, people here think being black or female is a choice.... bettyellen Feb 2014 #35

ugh, this is as relevant as "hot girls" get to pick and choose their mates. And what is interesting bettyellen Feb 2014 #26

Precisely BainsBane Feb 2014 #67

I thought of a scary question ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #72

Does a straight white Christian cis-female have more privilege Major Nikon Jan 2014 #12

Interesting how it's most frequently straight white men who believe they are the arbiters of what is bettyellen Feb 2014 #24

I could say the same thing about certain feminists Major Nikon Feb 2014 #33

I get it, you think you are entitled to judge what "quantifiable" actually means, what "a wash" is.. bettyellen Feb 2014 #34

So what are your standards? Major Nikon Feb 2014 #37

Woe is you, all is so nebulous, unquantifiable and mysterious! LOL. Because penis? bettyellen Feb 2014 #39

I noticed you didn't come up with anything Major Nikon Feb 2014 #44

it doesn't matter to me how you find me- as you have explained- you are unfit to render judgement or bettyellen Feb 2014 #45

"divine meaning" Major Nikon Feb 2014 #48

look it up, maybe read by your gaslight, LOL. bettyellen Feb 2014 #49

gaslight ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #60

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #73

Bwahahahahaha!!! chervilant Feb 2014 #78

So does being born without one Major Nikon Feb 2014 #79

Good to know you recognize absolutes. chervilant Feb 2014 #80

I'd prefer you do it for me Major Nikon Feb 2014 #84

naah, you'd rather make light of the entire subject. and bog it down in minutia like your bettyellen Feb 2014 #85

Even so I'll wait for you to frame the subject Major Nikon Feb 2014 #86

By all means, hold your breath while doing so. bettyellen Feb 2014 #87

Blah, Blah, Blah, Ginger, chervilant Feb 2014 #88

I am Major Nikon Feb 2014 #89

You are?!?!? chervilant Feb 2014 #92

Perhaps Major Nikon Feb 2014 #98

Gaslighting bullshit. You feel entitled to frame the discussion on only your own terms. Making it a bettyellen Feb 2014 #81

I asked you to frame the discussion yourself and you refused Major Nikon Feb 2014 #83

Remarkable, yes YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #46

That is not true BainsBane Feb 2014 #42

So true ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #74

That is more ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #2

I agree with your last point. Scuba Jan 2014 #3

True, but that saying seems particularly appropriate BainsBane Feb 2014 #41

did you have two loving parents? snooper2 Feb 2014 #63

did you have two smart ones? sheesh. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #71

Privi = private and Lege = law. Privilege = private law RadiationTherapy Jan 2014 #5

Many here are facially privilege ChazII Jan 2014 #7

Doesn't that fall under ableism? cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #8

Perhaps that would be a better ChazII Jan 2014 #9

I'm a little confused. You would disagree that it fits under ableism, or cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #14

I am confused to a point, too. ChazII Jan 2014 #17

This is a fascinating discussion. :) cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #19

Cinnabonbon you have taught me ChazII Feb 2014 #21

And you were kind enough cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #23

You're right that is a kind of privilege that I never contemplated I have BainsBane Feb 2014 #99

BainBane, thank you ChazII Feb 2014 #113

I must K you and R you phantom power Jan 2014 #16

A cute slogan, but nothing whatsoever to do do with the definition of privilege Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #18

privilege - what conservatives means when they say 'freedom' or 'liberty' KG Feb 2014 #20

kinda of a dumb definition hfojvt Feb 2014 #22

Here is another one, being in the position where you dismiss others problems outright with "dumb" bettyellen Feb 2014 #25

This guy did not have "non-pothead privilege", unfortunately (life in prison for pot possession). Nye Bevan Feb 2014 #27

and my point being hfojvt Feb 2014 #28

so- being black or a woman is a choice like smoking pot? And when you work to fix laws, you should bettyellen Feb 2014 #32

If I recall correctly BainsBane Feb 2014 #40

Beyonce or Oprah=the exception that proves the rule YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #47

That is not my view BainsBane Feb 2014 #52

I know it's not your view, sorry... YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #66

BB was saying we'd heard that one before.... just as we have been told (here at DU) bettyellen Feb 2014 #55

Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #75

women are resented here for going to college and earning more than male drop outs. bettyellen Feb 2014 #82

I certainly agree with this me b zola Feb 2014 #29

How timely Tsiyu Feb 2014 #30

I'm a white guy, so I have nothing to say about this. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #31

Privilege does not exist until a person or society has given it to someone seveneyes Feb 2014 #36

False, privilege is what you are born into BainsBane Feb 2014 #43

Is that from "The Secret" or "The Message" or another tome on empowerment? bettyellen Feb 2014 #50

It's from reality seveneyes Feb 2014 #53

and it is given in many societies, to certain groups. bettyellen Feb 2014 #54

I think, in a way, that I agree. (though I don't agree that a person can give privilege.) cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #90

Fantastic definition! BainsBane Feb 2014 #38

I guess by that definition..... AverageJoe90 Feb 2014 #51

Gamma Ray Bursts. Dutch Elm Disease. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #56

The Spanish Inquisition! Methane rain on Titan. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #57

....Being too rich! Following up my debut #1 album with an equally groundbreaking sophomore effort Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #58

Going down the drain! Spontaneously combusting. Being chased by werewolves. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #62

How about Nickelback and the black clap? Major Nikon Feb 2014 #65

They are not a problem to me personally, no. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #69

Chemtrails, the War on Christmas, daft facebook memes Major Nikon Feb 2014 #68

Writing the great American novel. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #70

Last year I lost one of my trees to DED Major Nikon Feb 2014 #59

I remember when it caused all kinds of problems in the Midwest, back in the late 70s. Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #61

My elm tree wasn't very privileged Major Nikon Feb 2014 #64

I can't resist a Scuba thread. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #76

So if someone doesn't think like that, they can't be privileged? Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #77

Sorry but NO that is wrong KentuckyWoman Feb 2014 #91

I've seen a lot of this discussion on privilege and I have to ask some questions here Arcanetrance Feb 2014 #93

In very loose, and general terms it means that whatever your circumstances- bettyellen Feb 2014 #94

That's a good answer thank you Arcanetrance Feb 2014 #95

and when you consider the big picture- the things needed to uplift others, would benefit every bettyellen Feb 2014 #100

I wholeheartedly agree on the maternity leave Arcanetrance Feb 2014 #101

In Ireland they love the poor Catholics fighting the poorest Protestants. They call it "keeping bettyellen Feb 2014 #102

Well articulated YoungDemCA Feb 2014 #96

It's not easy with all the word salad nonsense spewed by those that demand "debate" here bettyellen Feb 2014 #97

+ a gazillion. chervilant Feb 2014 #103

oh yeah, let's talk about pot privlege and Elm trees! NOPE. Not until you stop acting the fool. bettyellen Feb 2014 #104

Nicely stated. Thanks. Scuba Feb 2014 #105

I don't get it, may be I am an idiot, but sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #106

having more privilege is basically being less effected by systemic discrimination than others. bettyellen Feb 2014 #107

I agree with your answer, however sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #108

better laws and better education are good. god knows when we will get a congress that cares though! bettyellen Feb 2014 #110

Sorry to bug you again sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #109

ahhh, I get the czar reference now. tribalism is a difficult hurdle, and I think you are right- bettyellen Feb 2014 #111

White privilege means you don't have to be aware of racial discrimination. westerebus Feb 2014 #112