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In reply to the discussion: Third prominent banker found dead in six days [View all]RainDog
(28,784 posts)60. From your link and the Rolling Stone article
HSBC Said to Plan Sale of Swiss Private Banking Assets in Geneva
HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA), Europes largest bank, is planning to sell parts of its Swiss private bank as some foreign lenders retreat amid a crackdown on bank secrecy and rising regulatory scrutiny, four people with knowledge of the situation said.
HSBC is selling a largely Geneva-based business with about $15 billion in assets under management, according to three of the people, who asked not to be identified because talks are private. Documents for the business, which includes wealthy clients in France, have been sent to potential buyers and it may be sold in parts, though no sale is guaranteed, they said.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-01-31/hsbc-said-to-plan-sale-of-swiss-private-banking-assets-in-geneva
HSBC Holdings Plc (HSBA), Europes largest bank, is planning to sell parts of its Swiss private bank as some foreign lenders retreat amid a crackdown on bank secrecy and rising regulatory scrutiny, four people with knowledge of the situation said.
HSBC is selling a largely Geneva-based business with about $15 billion in assets under management, according to three of the people, who asked not to be identified because talks are private. Documents for the business, which includes wealthy clients in France, have been sent to potential buyers and it may be sold in parts, though no sale is guaranteed, they said.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-01-31/hsbc-said-to-plan-sale-of-swiss-private-banking-assets-in-geneva
The Treasury Department keeps a list compiled by the Office of Foreign Assets Control, or OFAC, and American banks are not supposed to do business with anyone on the OFAC list. But the bank knowingly helped banned individuals elude the sanctions process. One such individual was the powerful Syrian businessman Rami Makhlouf, a close confidant of the Assad family. When Makhlouf appeared on the OFAC list in 2008, HSBC responded not by severing ties with him but by trying to figure out what to do about the accounts the Syrian power broker had in its Geneva and Cayman Islands branches. "We have determined that accounts held in the Caymans are not in the jurisdiction of, and are not housed on any systems in, the United States," wrote one compliance officer. "Therefore, we will not be reporting this match to OFAC."
Translation: We know the guy's on a terrorist list, but his accounts are in a place the Americans can't search, so screw them.
Remember, this was in 2008 five years after HSBC had first been caught doing this sort of thing. And even four years after that, when being grilled by Michigan Sen. Carl Levin in July 2012, an HSBC executive refused to absolutely say that the bank would inform the government if Makhlouf or another OFAC-listed name popped up in its system saying only that it would "do everything we can."
The Senate exchange highlighted an extremely frustrating dynamic government investigators have had to face with Too Big to Jail megabanks: The same thing that makes them so attractive to shady customers their ability to instantaneously move money around the world to places like the Cayman Islands and Switzerland makes it easy for them to play dumb with regulators by hiding behind secrecy laws.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/gangster-bankers-too-big-to-jail-20130214page=2#ixzz2sFYTaXFW
Translation: We know the guy's on a terrorist list, but his accounts are in a place the Americans can't search, so screw them.
Remember, this was in 2008 five years after HSBC had first been caught doing this sort of thing. And even four years after that, when being grilled by Michigan Sen. Carl Levin in July 2012, an HSBC executive refused to absolutely say that the bank would inform the government if Makhlouf or another OFAC-listed name popped up in its system saying only that it would "do everything we can."
The Senate exchange highlighted an extremely frustrating dynamic government investigators have had to face with Too Big to Jail megabanks: The same thing that makes them so attractive to shady customers their ability to instantaneously move money around the world to places like the Cayman Islands and Switzerland makes it easy for them to play dumb with regulators by hiding behind secrecy laws.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/gangster-bankers-too-big-to-jail-20130214page=2#ixzz2sFYTaXFW
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You know, as assassin could force poison down your throat or blow your brains out
bluestate10
Feb 2014
#170
Or even Saddam Hussein. I mean how would it look to future puppets if we really let him die?
rwsanders
Feb 2014
#110
HSBC has quite a track recored of being a sleazy bank. HSBC should merge with BOA. n/t
RKP5637
Feb 2014
#77
There was also this recent news that the DEA negotiated with the Sinaloa cartel
RainDog
Feb 2014
#40
And remember "emerging economy problems" was the explanation for the run of really bad days
BlueStreak
Feb 2014
#37
That was Capital calling their money home. I see as noted above a China problem.
Ikonoklast
Feb 2014
#83
That's what struck me when they did it. It seemed like a really desperate move.
Squinch
Feb 2014
#145
Hmmm...is there something coming down the pike that we don't know about?
Baitball Blogger
Feb 2014
#5
We've been riding the greatest pyramid scheme in history. In 2008 the can was kicked
rhett o rick
Feb 2014
#6
As long as it doesn't make it to the washer woman level, I guess it was just a matter
Baitball Blogger
Feb 2014
#8
It's an egregious system that feeds on itself like a cancer and if one extrapolates it out it
RKP5637
Feb 2014
#76
The being pushed off bridges and buildings type of suicide is also a thing.
Fantastic Anarchist
Feb 2014
#153
Yes, as I said below, the collapse was only postponed. It still has to happen sooner or later...
ChisolmTrailDem
Feb 2014
#20
Yep, agree. See my post #76. The system could work, but greed and shenanigans are too great. The
RKP5637
Feb 2014
#80
Well, what happened was that the criminals were allowed to get away with it and so
ChisolmTrailDem
Feb 2014
#112
I heard the crash that was avoided in 2008 with TARP (among others) is still going to happen
ChisolmTrailDem
Feb 2014
#19
I literally just walked to BofA and cashed my paycheck and then walked to
ChisolmTrailDem
Feb 2014
#146
I don't know if that's sarcastic or not it might not be so far off the mark
VanillaRhapsody
Feb 2014
#38
What do you call a thousand investment bankers at the bottom of the ocean?
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2014
#52
Our heavily manipulated faux economy may be running out of manipulations.
democratisphere
Feb 2014
#78
k and r--bookmarking for later reading. either they all know something really bad, or they had help
niyad
Feb 2014
#93
The DOJ is investigating big money re violation of bribery laws involving Libya's investment fund
siligut
Feb 2014
#144
A Rash of Deaths and a Missing Reporter – With Ties to Wall Street Investigations
mirrera
Feb 2014
#159
Microbiologists were dying under strange circumstances during the post-9/11 anthrax attacks...
radhika
Feb 2014
#161
they're already too big to fail and too big to jail, what other shoe will drop?
WillYourVoteBCounted
Feb 2014
#162