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IdaBriggs

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165. Okay, you aren't asking to be ignored.

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:03 AM

Feb 2014

You are making reasoned points, and in several of them, you are in the right.

Unfortunately, sexual abuse of children is one of those things we as a society can't seem to get right. Heck, we can't even deal with ADULT women being raped - completely credible, with DNA evidence, and sometimes video shared on social media - and put those folks in jail.

With the stats being what they are, and NOTHING IN IT FOR THE VICTIM except reliving traumatic memories, I am personally offended sixteen ways to Sunday about the "her mother made it up, blah, blah, blah" -- and bluntly, just like I don't want to play with Republicans on this message board, I am not going to argue about whether or not Dylan (or any other sexual assault victim) is telling the truth.

I am going to trust her. In my personal experience, victims of this type of crime rarely see justice, and I will be *DAMNED* if I let their name be slandered because it is a fun game on the internet.

Some things are just NOT acceptable, and "she's a liar" about this topic is one of them for me.

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Anyone who thinks an adult telling about being molested as a child is a liar -- [View all] IdaBriggs Feb 2014 OP

I believe her!!! bravenak Feb 2014 #1

It was painful to read. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #2

I've been there. bravenak Feb 2014 #6

Words fail. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #12

I'm strong, I bend I don't break. bravenak Feb 2014 #16

He's a sorry excuse for a human being Aerows Feb 2014 #206

No they don't. bravenak Feb 2014 #209

It does happen though exboyfil Feb 2014 #229

This was a completely different situation. bravenak Feb 2014 #236

Woody Allen has already proved himself to be slime exboyfil Feb 2014 #245

He has a pattern of sexualizing daughter figures. bravenak Feb 2014 #252

Besides Soon-Yi, who are the other "daughter figures" he's sexualized? El_Johns Feb 2014 #317

I think two is enough. Dylan at seven, Soon Yi at 19. bravenak Feb 2014 #318

You said he had a "history". You haven't provided any history. El_Johns Feb 2014 #319

That is his history. bravenak Feb 2014 #324

Dylan is what's at issue. Allen has no history whatsoever of being involved with 7 year olds. El_Johns Feb 2014 #327

Previn was a daughter figure. bravenak Feb 2014 #330

Previn is one person, not a history. You are claiming Allen's relationship with Previn = El_Johns Feb 2014 #339

Is a "history" even necessary truedelphi Feb 2014 #355

excellent point Victor_c3 Feb 2014 #242

Well obviously they do when adults talk about it, as multiple cases show. El_Johns Feb 2014 #322

I believe her, too. Lunacee_2013 Feb 2014 #126

Nobody would put themselves through this type of ordeal just because they are bitter. bravenak Feb 2014 #130

If you are going to rely on assumption to gauge credibility ... 1000words Feb 2014 #3

Done. Thank you for your honesty. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #4

Some are predicatable BainsBane Feb 2014 #7

I believe that will be my first ignore. bravenak Feb 2014 #9

Your choice 1000words Feb 2014 #10

I agree with 1000words, I guess you should put me on ignore. Cofitachequi Feb 2014 #290

that goes both ways. the trashing of mia by allen apologists appears to be ok roguevalley Feb 2014 #5

Not by me it isn't 1000words Feb 2014 #8

To claim you don't know what happened BainsBane Feb 2014 #11

You could just not say anything if you haven't read up on the subject. bravenak Feb 2014 #14

Based on stuff put up on the internet, truedelphi Feb 2014 #18

You didn't have Jon Benet's testimony BainsBane Feb 2014 #21

At the time she first told this story, her mom was ina court trying truedelphi Feb 2014 #43

Sadly, I've seen the same thing. CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #46

Thanks for saying this. truedelphi Feb 2014 #261

Oh, no, that never happens. Never never never. Those who think so are secret pedophiles. El_Johns Feb 2014 #59

Yep-- I've actually seen that happen. Marr Feb 2014 #201

This message was self-deleted by its author juxtaposed Feb 2014 #13

I am so sorry. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #15

no reason for sorrow, thanks though. juxtaposed Feb 2014 #19

The rich have access to as many publicists as they can afford..... alittlelark Feb 2014 #17

I believe in innocent until proven guilty. NobodyHere Feb 2014 #20

nonsequitur BainsBane Feb 2014 #22

I'm granting both parties equal respect. NobodyHere Feb 2014 #25

You do not have conflicting stories BainsBane Feb 2014 #27

Does this count as a denial Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #88

When he comes out and says it himself BainsBane Feb 2014 #107

I believe that she is not lying Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #146

Thank you for your clarification BainsBane Feb 2014 #227

Woody did deny it. Back when the accusations and investigation happened. cui bono Feb 2014 #103

that is laughable just on the face of it: SHOW ME. omg. LOL Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #158

Absolutely! RedRoses323 Feb 2014 #171

Asked and answered. Because grown women LIKE to IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #33

oh hell yeah - I'm gonna do that right after my recreational abortions. elehhhhna Feb 2014 #240

Woody's not going to prison. The question is whether he deserves our respect pnwmom Feb 2014 #36

after reading his short stories I understand elehhhhna Feb 2014 #243

...like Sandusky. elehhhhna Feb 2014 #239

There was no trial... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #57

Clearly she was not BainsBane Feb 2014 #123

I'm not ignoring her statement... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #254

But..but...She's not WOODY ALLEN! whathehell Feb 2014 #132

In cases like this, there will be no trial. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #28

A victim who never saw a trial? Nitram Feb 2014 #248

No, you don't. No one does. NCTraveler Feb 2014 #160

Who are you to say what MY beliefs are? NobodyHere Feb 2014 #202

I am the one telling you that not one individual believes that people.... NCTraveler Feb 2014 #210

So do you believe OJ is innocent? n/t DeSwiss Feb 2014 #267

Nah NobodyHere Feb 2014 #286

Not a liar. Igel Feb 2014 #23

Your story is about an interpretation where people thought you were IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #29

I think he's right. The McMartin Preschool case. kwassa Feb 2014 #41

In honor of Dylan (who doesn't seem like a liar to me) IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #47

Why should I care that you are ignoring me? kwassa Feb 2014 #48

You don't care that Ida Briggs is putting you on ignore??? Ida BRIGGS, woman!!! El_Johns Feb 2014 #55

Ida who? kwassa Feb 2014 #60

Ida BRIGGS, man!!! Is putting YOU on ignore!! El_Johns Feb 2014 #61

pretty telling Niceguy1 Feb 2014 #58

The "facts" in this case are Dylan's statement BainsBane Feb 2014 #124

Saying someone is innocent until proven guilty is NOT ... kwassa Feb 2014 #218

Whatever is going on in Ida's head... TroglodyteScholar Feb 2014 #100

that is OK, I have already been told I make people sick hollysmom Feb 2014 #264

This has nothing to do with Dylan. CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #63

+1 cui bono Feb 2014 #96

JFC what a ridiculous response. cui bono Feb 2014 #95

You continually and purposefully ignore the facts in evidence BainsBane Feb 2014 #237

Might as well cut and paste... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #255

It wasn't the only one: there was a rash of these in the late 80s, early 90s. El_Johns Feb 2014 #304

yes, my cousin with "recovered" memories is not a liar, but she is wrong hollysmom Feb 2014 #30

Ah, so she is a perfectly normal, high functioning adult? IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #32

Of course she is not self medicated anythingelse hollysmom Feb 2014 #42

Ida Briggs has put you on ignore and cannot hear El_Johns Feb 2014 #80

no great loss. people can be reasonable or not their choice. n/t hollysmom Feb 2014 #122

You notice how... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #82

I know... seriously. It's scary. n/t cui bono Feb 2014 #98

WTF is your problem? What kind of response is that? cui bono Feb 2014 #99

the recovered memory thing brings up a good point as do some of the other posts loli phabay Feb 2014 #34

You realize that Dylan Farrow doesn't have recovered memories, right? n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #135

yes I do I was trying to say that people aren't liars they believe what they believe hollysmom Feb 2014 #137

But in this case we have more. We have the prosecutor from when she was 7, saying that pnwmom Feb 2014 #38

We have the prosecutor... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #65

Yes, the prosecutor was accused by Allen. But the State Bar ruled that he had NOT pnwmom Feb 2014 #67

Nope. CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #256

The reprimand was revoked. It's very deceptive to leave that part out. pnwmom Feb 2014 #287

And the reprimand was later overturned. Squinch Feb 2014 #257

Who was the employee? Also, you left out the medical examinations that showed no sign of abuse, cui bono Feb 2014 #101

Many children who are groped show no medical signs of the abuse, but it is still abuse. pnwmom Feb 2014 #289

The McMartin case has nothing to do with Woody Allen and Dylan Farrow BainsBane Feb 2014 #128

The child sex abuse hysteria of the 80s-90s probably does have something to do with the Allen- El_Johns Feb 2014 #321

K&R! I have NO DOUBT Dylan is telling the truth. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #24

I WAS an adult telling about being molested as a child. I KNOW they don't lie. Triana Feb 2014 #26

Because you didn't lie, then other don't lie? Democat Feb 2014 #119

DON'T you even start with me . . . Triana Feb 2014 #143

Well done DeShawn Feb 2014 #223

So no one can ask you a question? ok. n-t Logical Feb 2014 #272

Right, I am sure that has never happened .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #31

Exactly. How could anyone think otherwise unless they are pedophiles? El_Johns Feb 2014 #49

Or fans of pedophiles, which if she is telling the truth -- IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #153

Oh noes! Ida Briggs has ME on ignore!! El_Johns Feb 2014 #166

if this is the case he should be arrested and stand trial. madrchsod Feb 2014 #35

SHOULD - on what planet do you live? IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #37

I'm close to a young woman who went through this, and realize that it would take incredible bravery pnwmom Feb 2014 #40

I know one child who was raped when she was four. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #185

I don't know how anyone can read the letter and not believe her. pnwmom Feb 2014 #188

I'm going with "willfull ignorance." IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #191

There's a statute of limitations. So we will all just have to make our own judgments. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #39

No Statute of Limitations on Felony Sex Assault: Woody Allen Can Still Be Charged El_Johns Feb 2014 #68

Interesting. I doubt that it will happen though. Trying to construct a case 20 years later pnwmom Feb 2014 #75

They never HAD a case, ANY case. Bonobo Feb 2014 #78

According to at least one report, here was an employee that caught him with his face in Dylan's lap, pnwmom Feb 2014 #81

And there were the other employees who said Farrow pressured them to lie. El_Johns Feb 2014 #85

I'd be interested in reading about that. But the bottom line for me is Dylan's statement itself pnwmom Feb 2014 #86

Lawyers for Woody Allen said Monday that a former nanny who worked for Mia Farrow has testified she El_Johns Feb 2014 #90

The incident with his face in Dylan's lap was supposedly observed by an employee of a friend, pnwmom Feb 2014 #114

It was a nanny Major Nikon Feb 2014 #93

It was a nanny employed by Casey Pascal, not by Farrow. She was in Farrow's house taking care of pnwmom Feb 2014 #117

Casey Pascal being Farrow's childhood friend and Dylan's godmother. So what? You are very El_Johns Feb 2014 #307

In any case like this the people most likely to be witnesses do have connections to the family pnwmom Feb 2014 #308

I place no particular credibility in friends on either side. Here's what I place credibility in: El_Johns Feb 2014 #312

Most cases of molestation don't leave physical evidence. Don't you understand that? pnwmom Feb 2014 #314

I don't consider rubbing suntan lotion on a child's buttocks "abuse". I don't consider putting El_Johns Feb 2014 #332

Well, that explains a lot. n/t pnwmom Feb 2014 #333

It always comes down to accusing anyone who doesn't agree with you of being a pedophile, El_Johns Feb 2014 #335

Casey Pascal reported this to Farrow. An employee of Casey's -- not Farrow's -- who was visiting pnwmom Feb 2014 #116

"Pascal, Mia’s friend since boarding-school days in England" = so? El_Johns Feb 2014 #169

In a court of law, her testimony would carry plenty of weight. pnwmom Feb 2014 #172

Yes, & so would the testimony of the nanny who worked with the kids for 7 years who said El_Johns Feb 2014 #187

Molesters don't do this stuff in front of people. The fact that the long time nanny saw nothing pnwmom Feb 2014 #189

Yet supposedly the babysitter saw him -- during a visitation *after* the Soon-Yi incident, El_Johns Feb 2014 #194

Did you read the Vanity Fair articles? According to them, a therapist who was working pnwmom Feb 2014 #199

Yet Farrow had recently given Allen a glowing endorsement in adoption proceedings for Moses El_Johns Feb 2014 #200

It's true that therapy was the family hobby. But it is also true that the boy's therapist pnwmom Feb 2014 #244

I read the Vanity Fair articles. But they're irrelevant to the point I made, which was that despite El_Johns Feb 2014 #292

Yes, the incident with the babysitter coming upon Woody pnwmom Feb 2014 #293

oh, "a brief greeting". Shocking stuff. "The issue" -- yes, what was "the issue" and why would El_Johns Feb 2014 #294

Where is that info about the employee catching him? cui bono Feb 2014 #105

Allen made a formal complaint because the prosecutor said that he had had enough evidence pnwmom Feb 2014 #120

Connecticut state police brought in the Yale clinic, not Allen. The Yale clinic El_Johns Feb 2014 #301

That's splitting hairs. The psychologists who "interviewed" the girl were on Woody's payroll. pnwmom Feb 2014 #303

They did interview her (9 times) and they were not on Woody Allen's payroll. Nine Feb 2014 #305

The man who wrote the report never interviewed her. pnwmom Feb 2014 #306

Yale-New Haven relied on information from psychologists connected to Allen when writing its report. pnwmom Feb 2014 #326

It was a six month investigation, and the fact that the HEAD of the clinic didn't interview Dylan El_Johns Feb 2014 #309

Where have you seen it written who DID interview her, besides the people connected with Woody? pnwmom Feb 2014 #311

The fact that the media printed a retraction is hard evidence that someone from the clinic did El_Johns Feb 2014 #315

No one with a medical degree interviewed her. The physician who wrote the report didn't. pnwmom Feb 2014 #323

You claimed the Yale-New Haven team relied on interviews from Allen's personal docs. FALSE. El_Johns Feb 2014 #325

That is not what I said. I said they were on his payroll, and that no medical doctor interviewed her pnwmom Feb 2014 #331

What you said: El_Johns Feb 2014 #334

I never said anywhere that they were Allen's "personal docs." I said they were on his payroll, pnwmom Feb 2014 #336

No, you used the term "psychologists on Allen's payroll" instead of "personal docs," same thing. El_Johns Feb 2014 #338

All the information you're citing is from one article by one reporter. Nine Feb 2014 #340

The reporter clearly formed an opinion after doing dozens of interviews and collecting pnwmom Feb 2014 #342

Polygraph results are not admissible in court. Means nothing. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #203

Anyone who thinks a parent has never lied... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #44

Thank you for your honesty. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #45

You likely won't see this, but... CSStrowbridge Feb 2014 #52

A great loss, no doubt. El_Johns Feb 2014 #54

Personally DeShawn Feb 2014 #224

Tell it, Ida! Squinch Feb 2014 #50

It took a lot of bravery for her to come forward. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #51

She has nothing to gain. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #53

Thanks for posting this. TDale313 Feb 2014 #56

Same here. Really helpful. sybylla Feb 2014 #269

I have to admit, TDale313 Feb 2014 #271

Notwithstanding the emotion in the OP, are you stating that flvegan Feb 2014 #62

The current shiny thing is Woody Allen molesting Dylan. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #69

HEAR HERE!!!!! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #70

Possible no one is lying here. Shivering Jemmy Feb 2014 #71

Wisdom and compassion - impossible to ignore. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #155

K&R ty Ida. Whisp Feb 2014 #72

As Richard Weide said: Not so fast. GoneOffShore Feb 2014 #73

Ida Briggs has him on ignore. El_Johns Feb 2014 #74

Fine with me. GoneOffShore Feb 2014 #76

Moses is also a family therapist. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #139

Believe the victim or someone desperate to have a relationship with a perpetrator. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #157

Put me on that list because I sure as hell don't want to be on the other. last1standing Feb 2014 #77

+1. If the OP wants to have an adult conversation they shouldn't start with threats. Dawgs Feb 2014 #145

Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #164

God Damnit! I thought you were putting me on ignore. last1standing Feb 2014 #178

Exactly. Precisely. zentrum Feb 2014 #79

I believe LostOne4Ever Feb 2014 #83

After seeing how you are NOT listening to others who MIGHT have an insight you lack on this nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #84

As requested. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #177

Add me just because I think you are clueless! nt Logical Feb 2014 #87

Oh, for fuck's sake... MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #89

Don't forget to add Moses Farrow to your ignore list... SmieGuy Feb 2014 #91

Moses is already dead to Ida Briggs. Dead and ignored. El_Johns Feb 2014 #94

Do you have a link for that? From Moses Farrow himself, not some writer talking about him? pnwmom Feb 2014 #136

Then put on ignore everyone who believes in the basic principle of presumption of innocence Silent3 Feb 2014 #92

How about a presumption of innocence for Dick Cheney or George Bush BainsBane Feb 2014 #104

No, he still could be charged. jeff47 Feb 2014 #106

Show me the New York law that makes that true/ edited to include info on NY law BainsBane Feb 2014 #109

We have both NY and CT options. jeff47 Feb 2014 #111

I edited my prior post to include the NY law BainsBane Feb 2014 #112

Because you're restricting yourself to child abuse. That's not the only option. jeff47 Feb 2014 #113

I linked to both civil and criminal BainsBane Feb 2014 #115

And I linked criminal and highlighted where they could prosecute. jeff47 Feb 2014 #217

Who called anyone a liar? Silent3 Feb 2014 #142

This isn't a court of law BainsBane Feb 2014 #226

And if you say you don't know, neither stands condemned... Silent3 Feb 2014 #238

They don't say Christie is "guilty until proven innocent." BainsBane Feb 2014 #246

Some subjects are just more sensationalistic than others... Silent3 Feb 2014 #249

I think not BainsBane Feb 2014 #251

I believe you believe you're observing patterns Silent3 Feb 2014 #253

Okay, you aren't asking to be ignored. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #165

Well, gee .... oldhippie Feb 2014 #173

Thank you! n/t PasadenaTrudy Feb 2014 #180

I ALWAYS believe the child. Le Taz Hot Feb 2014 #97

So where'd the McMartins get the fetuses to feed the children? jeff47 Feb 2014 #110

My mom was on a jury on a case JonLP24 Feb 2014 #127

Your mom and the other jurors are ON IGNORE!!!1! cthulu2016 Feb 2014 #131

I'm not inclined to disbelieve her, or anyone else who says they were abused. My automatic sympathy nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #102

I have no clue if she's telling the truth... Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #108

Rather than ignore anyone who doesn't believe any accusation you find offensive Democat Feb 2014 #118

You have your push buttons, and I have mine. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #179

Yet you expect people to find your opinions credible ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #182

I'm afraid I think your "statistics" are absurd. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #121

They are over 20 years old. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #176

Some back-of-an-envelope calculations: Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #213

Anything is possible JonLP24 Feb 2014 #125

It is incredibly easy to give children false memories that prevail into adulthood. Kurska Feb 2014 #129

Ah, the "Dylan is a gullible fool" defense, and her mom is a sick, sick woman. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #151

"I can't speak to the merits of this specific case, " Go ahead and put me on ignore Kurska Feb 2014 #215

Misogyny DeShawn Feb 2014 #225

The fact is DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #133

Can you people never understand that she was NOT HIS STEP DAUGHTER CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #161

May as well add me FreeJoe Feb 2014 #134

Well, at least you are getting added to the list with the "who knows?" IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #150

We've been down this road before cpwm17 Feb 2014 #211

No you're clearly lying about history and science Kurska Feb 2014 #216

Liar, no. Brainwashed by her mother, YES. CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #138

Ah, because women are evil and Woody Allen is a saint. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #149

I know you will never see this but just for your sad little record CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #231

Are you saying that every adult accuser is relating factual information? cali Feb 2014 #140

I'm saying exactly what I said in the post. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #148

so sorry for your past trauma, cali steve2470 Feb 2014 #167

People holding opinions are free to decide what they believe. riqster Feb 2014 #141

Not all accusations are true and neither are all denials. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #144

Dammit! Iggo Feb 2014 #147

It is incredibly, incredibly difficult for a victim to disclose sexual abuse LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #152

I am so sorry. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #162

Thanks, Ida LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #193

The shaming and silencing LWolf Feb 2014 #154

"Did my daddy rape me" snooper2 Feb 2014 #156

Tomnbstone me now, Ida HERVEPA Feb 2014 #159

I think it is entirely possible for an adult to lie about being molested as a child. oldhippie Feb 2014 #163

Blessed be - and done. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #175

I am beholden to reason & fair play. Please add me too. -nt Bonx Feb 2014 #184

Reason and fair play - well, that is a good way to justify such things. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #186

No idea what you're talking about, I'm sure it makes some sense to you. Bonx Feb 2014 #205

I think Allen is a creep, but B2G Feb 2014 #168

"Honestly don't know" is a far cry from "she's a liar!" IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #181

I read that over the weekend B2G Feb 2014 #192

There were a lot of similar cases in the same time frame as well. El_Johns Feb 2014 #197

I find Dylan credible also. Captain Stern Feb 2014 #170

This thread is a very good example of ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #174

I don't know what you should do with me. Jim Lane Feb 2014 #183

Well, since you aren't jumping up and down shouting that Dylan is a liar IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #190

Except that none of the people you have on ignore jumped up and down and shouted Dylan El_Johns Feb 2014 #195

Kinda moved the goalposts there, didn't ya? oldhippie Feb 2014 #222

Well, I remember "Michelle Remembers" Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #196

It does happen. Marr Feb 2014 #198

I don't think she's lying, anymore than my relative --a Wee Care kid, who still thinks he was abused msanthrope Feb 2014 #204

I have absolutely no knowledge of this case Feral Child Feb 2014 #207

You would be worst juror ever! nt Logical Feb 2014 #208

I don't make any judgments about such things that appear MineralMan Feb 2014 #212

Well, no one denies that false accusations and "coached" accusations happen, alp227 Feb 2014 #214

How does Woody marrying Soon-Yi prove he molested Dylan? tammywammy Feb 2014 #219

You just do NOT romance with the children of your SO. You simply don't. nt alp227 Feb 2014 #220

That doesn't answer my questions. tammywammy Feb 2014 #221

He was taking nude pictures of her as a teenager. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #273

So he took nude pictures of an adult. tammywammy Feb 2014 #276

You say adult, and I say teenager. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #279

18 is an adult. tammywammy Feb 2014 #283

For as long as I can remember its always been acceptable for men to pursue children. mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2014 #228

bullshit. it has never been acceptable. bowens43 Feb 2014 #259

to you and I that may be so. mstinamotorcity2 Feb 2014 #268

her mother and her brother believe her. CitizenLeft Feb 2014 #230

Her other brother says she was brainwashed CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #232

Her other brother was ten years older. bravenak Feb 2014 #241

He was 14 when it happened. El_Johns Feb 2014 #345

So he was 14. I stand corrected. He still wasn't living in her skin. bravenak Feb 2014 #346

He was however living in the household with a lot more awareness than 5 year old Ronan. El_Johns Feb 2014 #347

He still was not living in her skin. bravenak Feb 2014 #348

He can, however, remember how both parents behaved toward him and the other children. El_Johns Feb 2014 #349

I don't get how that proves anything. bravenak Feb 2014 #351

It may have some relevance to his (reported) claim that Mia brainwashed Dylan. El_Johns Feb 2014 #352

Or he could be lying. bravenak Feb 2014 #353

He could be. As could any of those involved. El_Johns Feb 2014 #354

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Feb 2014 #233

Done. She might have false memories and he might be a pedophile. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #274

His own Doctor wanted to testify against him in court classykaren Feb 2014 #234

citation, please. And the Yale team tasked with investigating the allegation cali Feb 2014 #247

Which doctor was that? And if he "wanted to," why didn't he? El_Johns Feb 2014 #316

His own psychiatrist Was not allowed to by law and I am sure you know that. But he did write a classykaren Feb 2014 #356

How about those of us withholding judgement? FloridaJudy Feb 2014 #235

Withholding judgment is not Ignore worthy. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #275

I believe Dylan Farrow. SunSeeker Feb 2014 #250

In matters such as these, it is best to allow the justice system to do its job Maedhros Feb 2014 #258

The justice system does not handle sexual abuse cases well. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #277

I saw this in real life when I was a baby attorney Gothmog Feb 2014 #282

I agree with all of your assertions. Maedhros Feb 2014 #285

k&r. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #260

A lot of people are citing Moses, the family therapist, reconciling with Allen and Squinch Feb 2014 #262

Some people don't believe in climate change because they don't IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #278

Forgetting and then remembering can happen. Thirties Child Feb 2014 #263

I am so sorry. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #280

I'd always liked Woody Allen and his movies, but... MarianJack Feb 2014 #265

Thank you! IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #284

Thank you. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #266

So there has never been an adult lie? Really? That is your claim? n-t Logical Feb 2014 #270

I decided to never practice family law due to a situation like this Gothmog Feb 2014 #281

Post removed Post removed Feb 2014 #288

How many "ignores" did you rack up? Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #291

Surprisingly, only 22. There were a lot more positives. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #295

If Allen is ever exonerated... Orsino Feb 2014 #296

I'm pretty clear on which one is lying. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #297

Given that *all* the stories so far are he said/she said... Orsino Feb 2014 #299

I don't think all adults alleging they were molested as a child are liars. Hosnon Feb 2014 #298

I don't think Allen did it. Nine Feb 2014 #300

The strongest point for me is that Dylan says he did. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #310

The missing underpants are a claim not a fact. Nine Feb 2014 #313

Go sister !.nt clarice Feb 2014 #302

k&r Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #320

I'll take the ignore, please DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2014 #328

Done, as requested. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #344

What if we believe her AND support the current burden of proof in our courts? joeglow3 Feb 2014 #329

I don't know what to do about the problem with sexual abuse IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #343

Again, those are claims from the Mia camp, not facts. Nine Feb 2014 #350

Interesting content at iwasfalselyaccused.com Bonx Feb 2014 #337

The only reason why I find her credible is because he went after his stepdaughter... cynatnite Feb 2014 #341