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oldhippie

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14. There you go again ......

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:08 AM

Feb 2014

.... Going all "engineer" on the poor people. They don't want to hear it.

Seriously, that would be an interesting calculation. I might work on that this afternoon if I get bored.

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We NEED a pipeline in America [View all] sorefeet Feb 2014 OP

Great Lakes ‘ground zero’ for water needs liberal N proud Feb 2014 #1

That's the picture. Like the time the oil producing states sent heating oil north to keep us warm. Octafish Feb 2014 #23

Good god, I hope they don't drain the Great Lakes. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #28

They can't. The Great Lakes are protected by international treaty... SidDithers Feb 2014 #46

Oh good. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #52

Floodwater pipelines? Sounds ideal, but how would it work? meow2u3 Feb 2014 #2

That is my thought sorefeet Feb 2014 #4

Well, there could be taps in areas that historically have drought problems. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #65

No. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #72

We'd create more permanent jobs and have a greater impact... Chan790 Feb 2014 #3

That's just not practical. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #5

That don't stop them from pumping sorefeet Feb 2014 #6

Where does oil get pumped with a similar elevation change?...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #8

There are no oil pipelines anywhere... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #11

Pipelines in Afghanistan? mikeysnot Feb 2014 #27

Those are natural gas pipelines. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #36

If the pipeline bursts from water their is no long term environmental disasters on our hands... mikeysnot Feb 2014 #62

(sigh) ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #17

How is water "lighter?" Oil floats on water. And being fluids, they both will siphon. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #19

VISCOSITY it's much easier to move sorefeet Feb 2014 #53

Viscosity would be the least of your problems in pumping flood water thousands of miles. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #59

Pumping station powered by the sun. After all B Calm Feb 2014 #7

And how much investment and energy will that take? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #9

Fine then lets do nothing sorefeet Feb 2014 #12

So... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #15

And of course the only choice is: "Build pipelines" of "Do Nothing." yellowcanine Feb 2014 #42

Subterranean rivers B Calm Feb 2014 #21

And? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #25

Underground rivers are actually quite rare. Most underground water is in aquifers. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #37

There you go again ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #14

Here's a good baseline: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #16

Why does it have to go through the sorefeet Feb 2014 #40

Have you looked at a map? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #41

Interesting, I always thought the Continental Divide was sorefeet Feb 2014 #48

Sorry, not the Continental Divide, the 20-inch rainfall line. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #50

You are correct. The Continental divide is through the Rockies. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #51

I'm sorry JackInGreen Feb 2014 #10

No we don't. Read the history of Southern California and water issues. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #13

Floodwater is water that's not being absorbed into the aquifer. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #18

Exactly. Not to mention the logistics of pumping away flood water. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #26

Floodwater re-energizes the soil... freebrew Feb 2014 #38

In addition 2naSalit Feb 2014 #55

I think large scale solar powered desalination is a great idea. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #47

To provide drinking water for coastal cities, maybe. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #77

I'm not so sure. Where there is a will, there is a way. I believe it is practical. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #78

You are talking about massive amounts of water to irrigate the valley. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #81

It would cost an unimaginable amount of money Enthusiast Feb 2014 #82

Then that would be a federal issue Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #83

Yes. Since the demise of the Soviet Union Enthusiast Feb 2014 #84

You could start it in Vermont and let it run Southwest, downhill to San Diego snooper2 Feb 2014 #20

Good one but you better add a sarcasm smile or someone will take you seriously. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #22

This is the goofiest thing I've read in a long time, but I'll work with you on it LOL snooper2 Feb 2014 #24

Nope, GED education sorefeet Feb 2014 #34

That's the problem, isn't it? Some of us have or are in the process of taking care of Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #75

We need to quit wasting water and build desalinization plants. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #29

Isn't it really cheaper to move people to water? HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #30

Also begs the question of why California has any right to water from the Great Lakes? yellowcanine Feb 2014 #31

Uh, no. Earth_First Feb 2014 #32

Can be solved with giant sponges packman Feb 2014 #33

I'm down with that! lonestarnot Feb 2014 #35

It is easier to move people than water -- moving the water requires continuous energy FarCenter Feb 2014 #39

Do you think so... bayareaboy Feb 2014 #54

We could start SoCalNative Feb 2014 #56

I thought all the CA natives had moved to New Mexico or Montana? FarCenter Feb 2014 #57

Not this one SoCalNative Feb 2014 #58

The West needs effective conservation and more reservoirs Auggie Feb 2014 #43

More reservoirs won't do any good Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #45

Need more reservoirs to retain runoff during wet years Auggie Feb 2014 #49

We can only divert and store so much water without destroying inland waterways with salt intrusion. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #67

how about move to the water? lunasun Feb 2014 #44

They'll have to legalize marijuana for some to move. B Calm Feb 2014 #60

cottonmouth is not the sole source of drought! no people's pipeline - will be corp run lunasun Feb 2014 #61

There is no such thing as "massive excess rain". Xithras Feb 2014 #63

That's actually good thinking, imho. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #64

But if it breaks and floods a sodium plant we'd be in for big trouble. Kablooie Feb 2014 #66

God, I love when people from god knows where tell Californians how to solve our water politics. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #68

I can name 5 major drainages in my county XemaSab Feb 2014 #69

We just need more storage! Then we can store more of the runoff that won't exist! LeftyMom Feb 2014 #70

Funny you should ask XemaSab Feb 2014 #71

I'm sure the Wintu are delighted. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #73

I think Caleen Sisk is about to go collect some scalps in Hanford XemaSab Feb 2014 #74

This (adopted) Californian knows that none of the Californians charged with the responsibility for Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #76

The day I hear they're building a Great Lakes water pipeline, you can find me at the local gun shop NickB79 Feb 2014 #79

I think the answer could be in our rising sea levels. B Calm Feb 2014 #80

There was a Los Angeles politician a couple of decades ago IDemo Feb 2014 #85