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yellowcanine

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31. Also begs the question of why California has any right to water from the Great Lakes?

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:31 AM

Feb 2014

As someone pointed out, the Canadians have something to say about that, not to mention the Great Lakes states. Just because California might be able to afford the cost of such a scheme (extremely doubtful, even if the water itself were "free&quot doesn't mean they would be permitted to take that water.

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We NEED a pipeline in America [View all] sorefeet Feb 2014 OP

Great Lakes ‘ground zero’ for water needs liberal N proud Feb 2014 #1

That's the picture. Like the time the oil producing states sent heating oil north to keep us warm. Octafish Feb 2014 #23

Good god, I hope they don't drain the Great Lakes. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #28

They can't. The Great Lakes are protected by international treaty... SidDithers Feb 2014 #46

Oh good. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #52

Floodwater pipelines? Sounds ideal, but how would it work? meow2u3 Feb 2014 #2

That is my thought sorefeet Feb 2014 #4

Well, there could be taps in areas that historically have drought problems. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #65

No. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #72

We'd create more permanent jobs and have a greater impact... Chan790 Feb 2014 #3

That's just not practical. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #5

That don't stop them from pumping sorefeet Feb 2014 #6

Where does oil get pumped with a similar elevation change?...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #8

There are no oil pipelines anywhere... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #11

Pipelines in Afghanistan? mikeysnot Feb 2014 #27

Those are natural gas pipelines. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #36

If the pipeline bursts from water their is no long term environmental disasters on our hands... mikeysnot Feb 2014 #62

(sigh) ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #17

How is water "lighter?" Oil floats on water. And being fluids, they both will siphon. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #19

VISCOSITY it's much easier to move sorefeet Feb 2014 #53

Viscosity would be the least of your problems in pumping flood water thousands of miles. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #59

Pumping station powered by the sun. After all B Calm Feb 2014 #7

And how much investment and energy will that take? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #9

Fine then lets do nothing sorefeet Feb 2014 #12

So... Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #15

And of course the only choice is: "Build pipelines" of "Do Nothing." yellowcanine Feb 2014 #42

Subterranean rivers B Calm Feb 2014 #21

And? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #25

Underground rivers are actually quite rare. Most underground water is in aquifers. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #37

There you go again ...... oldhippie Feb 2014 #14

Here's a good baseline: Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #16

Why does it have to go through the sorefeet Feb 2014 #40

Have you looked at a map? Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #41

Interesting, I always thought the Continental Divide was sorefeet Feb 2014 #48

Sorry, not the Continental Divide, the 20-inch rainfall line. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #50

You are correct. The Continental divide is through the Rockies. nt laundry_queen Feb 2014 #51

I'm sorry JackInGreen Feb 2014 #10

No we don't. Read the history of Southern California and water issues. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #13

Floodwater is water that's not being absorbed into the aquifer. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #18

Exactly. Not to mention the logistics of pumping away flood water. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #26

Floodwater re-energizes the soil... freebrew Feb 2014 #38

In addition 2naSalit Feb 2014 #55

I think large scale solar powered desalination is a great idea. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #47

To provide drinking water for coastal cities, maybe. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #77

I'm not so sure. Where there is a will, there is a way. I believe it is practical. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #78

You are talking about massive amounts of water to irrigate the valley. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #81

It would cost an unimaginable amount of money Enthusiast Feb 2014 #82

Then that would be a federal issue Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #83

Yes. Since the demise of the Soviet Union Enthusiast Feb 2014 #84

You could start it in Vermont and let it run Southwest, downhill to San Diego snooper2 Feb 2014 #20

Good one but you better add a sarcasm smile or someone will take you seriously. yellowcanine Feb 2014 #22

This is the goofiest thing I've read in a long time, but I'll work with you on it LOL snooper2 Feb 2014 #24

Nope, GED education sorefeet Feb 2014 #34

That's the problem, isn't it? Some of us have or are in the process of taking care of Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #75

We need to quit wasting water and build desalinization plants. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #29

Isn't it really cheaper to move people to water? HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #30

Also begs the question of why California has any right to water from the Great Lakes? yellowcanine Feb 2014 #31

Uh, no. Earth_First Feb 2014 #32

Can be solved with giant sponges packman Feb 2014 #33

I'm down with that! lonestarnot Feb 2014 #35

It is easier to move people than water -- moving the water requires continuous energy FarCenter Feb 2014 #39

Do you think so... bayareaboy Feb 2014 #54

We could start SoCalNative Feb 2014 #56

I thought all the CA natives had moved to New Mexico or Montana? FarCenter Feb 2014 #57

Not this one SoCalNative Feb 2014 #58

The West needs effective conservation and more reservoirs Auggie Feb 2014 #43

More reservoirs won't do any good Spider Jerusalem Feb 2014 #45

Need more reservoirs to retain runoff during wet years Auggie Feb 2014 #49

We can only divert and store so much water without destroying inland waterways with salt intrusion. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #67

how about move to the water? lunasun Feb 2014 #44

They'll have to legalize marijuana for some to move. B Calm Feb 2014 #60

cottonmouth is not the sole source of drought! no people's pipeline - will be corp run lunasun Feb 2014 #61

There is no such thing as "massive excess rain". Xithras Feb 2014 #63

That's actually good thinking, imho. Jamastiene Feb 2014 #64

But if it breaks and floods a sodium plant we'd be in for big trouble. Kablooie Feb 2014 #66

God, I love when people from god knows where tell Californians how to solve our water politics. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #68

I can name 5 major drainages in my county XemaSab Feb 2014 #69

We just need more storage! Then we can store more of the runoff that won't exist! LeftyMom Feb 2014 #70

Funny you should ask XemaSab Feb 2014 #71

I'm sure the Wintu are delighted. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #73

I think Caleen Sisk is about to go collect some scalps in Hanford XemaSab Feb 2014 #74

This (adopted) Californian knows that none of the Californians charged with the responsibility for Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #76

The day I hear they're building a Great Lakes water pipeline, you can find me at the local gun shop NickB79 Feb 2014 #79

I think the answer could be in our rising sea levels. B Calm Feb 2014 #80

There was a Los Angeles politician a couple of decades ago IDemo Feb 2014 #85