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Progressive dog

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40. From wikipedia

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:56 PM

Feb 2014

Marxism, though being heavily critical of utopianism, postulates the development of a New Man and New Woman in a communist society following the values of a non-essential nature of the state and the importance of freely associated work for the affirmation of a person's humanity. Marxism does not see the New Man/Woman as a goal or prerequisite for achieving full communism, but rather as a product of the social conditions of pure communism.[6]

An article on this subject, a Cuban update: http://www.intrepidmedia.com/column.asp?id=4553

Lysenko even developed a new theory of inheritance to explain how this new man would come into being. It was the only biology allowed in the USSR from 1920-1964.

From wikipedia "communist manifesto"

The section goes on to defend communism from various objections, such as the claim that communists advocate "free love", and the claim that people will not perform labour in a communist society because they have no incentive to work.[1

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7 Huge Misconceptions About Communism (and Capitalism) [View all] xchrom Feb 2014 OP

Popcorn anyone? whistler162 Feb 2014 #1

yes, please and move over xchrom Feb 2014 #2

I'll take mine with some garlic butter please! Initech Feb 2014 #41

It is unwise to play the bodycount game? joshcryer Feb 2014 #3

I'm an anti-communist too, but I think it would be interesting to see what goes into that number JHB Feb 2014 #8

I'm not anti-communist, I am anti-state communist. joshcryer Feb 2014 #24

If you want to fight that fight, I'll leave you to it JHB Feb 2014 #38

This statement may currently be true of the general public: PotatoChip Feb 2014 #42

One has to pick one's fights. If you want to pick that one, you're welcome to it JHB Feb 2014 #50

Interesting newfie11 Feb 2014 #4

Why oh why Android3.14 Feb 2014 #5

Some people are more interested in facts TBF Feb 2014 #10

As well you should. joshcryer Feb 2014 #25

Which ones specifically? nt TBF Feb 2014 #32

You don't see through this? Really? Android3.14 Feb 2014 #39

I'll ask you what I asked TBF Feb 2014 #45

I don't want to discuss anything Android3.14 Feb 2014 #47

As I expected. nt TBF Feb 2014 #48

You tried to pull the "there's no point in my telling you" canard with me. Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #64

Great article. PoliticalPothead Feb 2014 #6

Thanks xchrom, great article. K&R. Scuba Feb 2014 #7

... xchrom Feb 2014 #9

K&R. nt DLevine Feb 2014 #11

Rec. n/t Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #12

Great article. The "best" is at the end. fasttense Feb 2014 #13

it's the MickeyD effect of culture and society. xchrom Feb 2014 #14

Oh, no, specialization! joshcryer Feb 2014 #26

Communism is a failed experiment Progressive dog Feb 2014 #15

Except that none of the so-called "communst" countries were actually following pure communism. baldguy Feb 2014 #18

Pure communism can't exist using real people, Progressive dog Feb 2014 #20

And you can't have true or pure capitalism or free markets either. fasttense Feb 2014 #23

I agree, but capitalism doesn't depend on a "new man" Progressive dog Feb 2014 #27

Can you explain? PotatoChip Feb 2014 #29

A "new man"? What do you mean by that? fasttense Feb 2014 #34

From wikipedia Progressive dog Feb 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Feb 2014 #43

That is funny, hint Progressive dog Feb 2014 #44

You mean like Capitalism's "Homo economicus"? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #51

The Soviets and the Chinese followed Marx and Engels Progressive dog Feb 2014 #52

Do you have any clue what sort of social upheaval occurred when feudalism gave way to capitalism? baldguy Feb 2014 #49

Yes and apparently you don't Progressive dog Feb 2014 #53

Would that be agrarian capitalism, mercantile capitalism or capitalism based on international trade? baldguy Feb 2014 #56

Communism failed, get over it Progressive dog Feb 2014 #57

And you're under the mistaken impression that capitalism has succeeded, baldguy Feb 2014 #58

If you have a better system than capitalism Progressive dog Feb 2014 #59

Your one-liners have never been true, even when Reagan said them 30 yrs ago. baldguy Feb 2014 #60

Communism has failed everywhere it has been tried, period. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #61

IT NEVER *HAS* BEEN TRIED!! baldguy Feb 2014 #62

So, your special undisclosed variety of communism has never been tried. Progressive dog Feb 2014 #63

"IT NEVER *HAS* BEEN TRIED!!" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #65

Capitalism has been an abject failure too. So much so that there are few countries practicing it. baldguy Feb 2014 #66

"Capitalism has been an abject failure too." Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2014 #67

Yes, a workers' cooperative would be the ideal of pure Communism Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #30

Out-of-control Capitalism gave us "Money equals Free Speech" and "Corporations are people." another_liberal Feb 2014 #16

+1 daleanime Feb 2014 #21

No. 8 -- Communist countries were Communist. ananda Feb 2014 #17

+1000 PotatoChip Feb 2014 #19

"Capitalist governments don�t commit human rights atrocities." snooper2 Feb 2014 #22

Back during the Reagan administration, Jeane Kirkpatrick was all over TV Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #28

Pretty weak article - there's a case to be made for communism el_bryanto Feb 2014 #31

Communism and capitalism are obsolete -- they are based on theories of production FarCenter Feb 2014 #33

Making money out of money PotatoChip Feb 2014 #35

Someone has to produce the stuff for all those fasttense Feb 2014 #36

Agriculture is down to a few percent of workers and manufacturing is about 1/5 or so. FarCenter Feb 2014 #37

I don't know if I'd say obsolete - TBF Feb 2014 #46

My kevlar drawers were in the wash, so I didn't post this yesterday. Starry Messenger Feb 2014 #54

... xchrom Feb 2014 #55