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DirkGently

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59. DADT was the final legal barrier for gays in the military.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:25 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

It's not that "Don't Ask Don't Tell" was itself a major policy, but that being gay and in the military remained a major issue until DADT was repealed. Its very absurdity may have signaled the end of such discrimination, but there it was. So Obama oversaw the end of gay people being legally discharged for, essentially, being who they are.

I think that's going to resonate in history. I don't know that Obama's personal level of progressiveness necessarily had much to do with it -- he was still comfortable opposing gay marriage when he took office -- but the moment presented itself, and rather than be dragged kicking and screaming, Obama went with it.

Either way, though, the end of telling gay people they are not fit to serve ended in America under his watch. I think THAT will resonate in history.

Uh oh! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #1
And bus tires! eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #48
k&r n/t RainDog Feb 2014 #2
Reagan being bad consequences and Cha Feb 2014 #3
What does Krugman know about the economy and Dodd-Frank? pampango Feb 2014 #4
President Obama ProSense Feb 2014 #6
K&R for Obama, Warren and the Consumer Protections. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #9
Oh yeah Hekate Feb 2014 #20
Krugman is one of those "blindly supporting the President" types. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #44
It's not ProSense Feb 2014 #45
K&R!!! but but he's a soul sickener! Whisp Feb 2014 #5
I must disagree with Krugman this time. Martin Eden Feb 2014 #7
Bush was the climax of Raygun-ism. Obama is the beginning of what comes next. bemildred Feb 2014 #38
Yes. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #43
I try to be an optimist, but it's difficult in these "interesting" times. Martin Eden Feb 2014 #66
Might as well enjoy life while you can. bemildred Feb 2014 #67
One of Asimov's short stories spoke of "evitable" conflicts. riqster Feb 2014 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Agnosticsherbet Feb 2014 #75
Obama's legacy will endure far longer than his presidency... Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #8
Krugman is armed with facts. TheMathieu Feb 2014 #10
Rec #19 of 31 right here! Number23 Feb 2014 #11
No kidding. PragmaticLiberal Feb 2014 #26
I want history to record for all time the truth abut the Republicans summerschild Feb 2014 #12
with the media and lack of journalist in this country, it will be up to the people to insure the lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #58
Bush was plenty consequential. Obama will likely be DirkGently Feb 2014 #13
Appreciate your post. Right on ! lumpy Feb 2014 #29
my beef is not that "he didn't get anything done" hfojvt Feb 2014 #34
What did we get for making those tax cuts permanent? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #51
I am sure the rich agree too hfojvt Feb 2014 #54
To borrow a statement from ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #56
well I care hfojvt Feb 2014 #64
As opposed to not passing a law ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #65
you can put as much chocolate frosting as you want hfojvt Feb 2014 #69
I don't like a fair amount of his policies either. DirkGently Feb 2014 #60
I agree that his legacy will be the ACA Democat Feb 2014 #40
DADT was the final legal barrier for gays in the military. DirkGently Feb 2014 #59
Be careful what you wish for Demeter Feb 2014 #14
It's not just the scorched earth opposition, but a media that hasn't told the average American the okaawhatever Feb 2014 #15
and this ^^^^ BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #19
Yes, the media is killing our country. freshwest Feb 2014 #79
Great call Mr Krugman. I concur enthusiastically nt mikekohr Feb 2014 #16
I'd call Bush the most consequential... progressoid Feb 2014 #17
THANK you for this. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #18
Not for any actual accomplishments in support of Democratic values. gLibDem Feb 2014 #21
Not for paying attention are you? Hekate Feb 2014 #24
The President's only major accomplishment gLibDem Feb 2014 #31
Clean your lenses. Facts back up Krugman's assertions. The direction of the country mfcorey1 Feb 2014 #39
You Better Believe It! Oh, and Welcome Back! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #55
but... but... DLC!!! Corporafascist... wyldwolf Feb 2014 #22
Thank you, Dr. Krugman. And by the way, Dems: GOTV 2014. Hekate Feb 2014 #23
Completely agree Politicub Feb 2014 #25
Yup. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #30
Let's be clear about the LGBT and DADT. gLibDem Feb 2014 #32
Yes, Obama is always wrong! Democat Feb 2014 #42
Spoken like a true American. My President, right or wrong. gLibDem Feb 2014 #63
Hahahahaha Politicub Feb 2014 #61
Agreed, and beyond specific legislation Democat Feb 2014 #41
Now if only Jamaal510 Feb 2014 #27
hmmm hibbing Feb 2014 #28
Too bad he leads the same caving Party gLibDem Feb 2014 #33
Nowhere near as consequential as George W. Bush. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2014 #35
Yes, I doubt we'll recover from Bush's disastrous tenure in my lifetime deutsey Feb 2014 #68
I think Krugman has forgotten... mattclearing Feb 2014 #36
I don't think so. ProSense Feb 2014 #37
I'm aware of Obama's achievements, and agree they are consequential. mattclearing Feb 2014 #77
Obama's Top 10 plus 40 more marias23 Feb 2014 #46
Thanks for the list of Obama's accomplishments! freshwest Feb 2014 #78
NO ONE has done more to expand the NSA or shred the constitution... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #47
Not true. No expansions of the NSA have been signed into law by this President. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #49
Law? Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #50
That is obviously untrue and I can prove it with two words. WARRANTLESS WIRETAPPING stevenleser Feb 2014 #52
unfortunately, shrub was very consequential. unblock Feb 2014 #53
I agree. He has been underestimated by the media, many Democrats, and of course the republicans. lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #57
I love Prof Krugman Gothmog Feb 2014 #62
Krugman is right. n/t ProSense Feb 2014 #70
k&r nt arely staircase Feb 2014 #71
If "Consequential" Is The Yardstick DallasNE Feb 2014 #72
I dunno, I think we had massive negative consequences under the BFEE Rex Feb 2014 #73
Extending benefits to married same-sex spouses of federal employees was BIG libnnc Feb 2014 #74
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