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BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. The mistake is trying to compare Chimpy's (p)residency to Obama's presidency.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:07 PM
Feb 2014

Apples and oranges.

For no less than six years, Chimpy had a totally Republican controlled Congress, a 4.2% UE rate, and 9/11/2001. Obama had two years and a recalcitrant Democratic Congress (that clearly preferred HRC as president) - and no 9/11 to rally the country behind him.

Unlike Republicans/Teapublicans, Congressional Dems don't make a habit of filibustering just because they lost the WH or try to hamstring the U.S. Gov't entirely just because they don't get what they want. Fact of the matter is, Democrats actually believe government has an important role to play in our country and in the lives of our countrymen. Republicans don't. That's the huge difference.

Then we also should also NOT forget 9/11/2001. It had great influence on how members of Congress on both sides of the aisle approached legislation since poll after poll showed that the American people, by and large, across the entire political spectrum, rallied behind their (p)resident. And since it happened in the same year, just nine months, after the Chimp was seated in the WH by his friends on SCOTUS, it gave him an almost blank check to do whatever the hell he wanted for the majority of those six years - with the blessings from the same American people who should have known better.

I'm so sick and tired of so-called Democrats and Liberals whining that "Duhbya had no problem getting his agenda through so why can't Obama?!" without those same "Democrats" and "Liberals" even trying to understand the more favorable congressional variables of Chimpy's time - or choose to conveniently forget them to fit their anti-Obama narrative. Either way, they're dead wrong.

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We Have a President, Not a King [View all] MineralMan Feb 2014 OP
Damn, I wish we had known this while Chimpy was in office! Scuba Feb 2014 #1
What does that have to do with President Obama? MineralMan Feb 2014 #2
The mistake is trying to compare Chimpy's (p)residency to Obama's presidency. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #4
It is amazing how much Bush got accomplished, especially the first four years. adirondacker Feb 2014 #16
Was that before or after 9/11/2001 when BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #24
Security issues aside, there were was an orgy of tax breaks and deregulation that went unchallenged. adirondacker Feb 2014 #37
Yes, I know. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #41
From the git-go of the bu$h misadministration, Art_from_Ark Feb 2014 #56
Oh come on, even Dubya said it would have been easier if he was Dick Tater Fumesucker Feb 2014 #17
This new meme that's been going around for some time needs to stop BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #3
The meme is correct. The knowledge of the American people about their own government BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #5
So in defending the President, you are also saying Democrats in Congress are weak BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #6
I was not defending the president. I was giving explanation HOW OUR GOV'T WORKS. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #11
So now the Executive does have power BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #25
You're being obtuse. The Executive ONLY has power if Congress gives it to them. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #42
So until there are no Republicans at all there's nothing we can do? BrotherIvan Feb 2014 #51
No. Until we relegate Republicans in Congress to minority status in both chambers BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #53
Why isn't ALEC ever addressed? Campaign finance reform? These are the Issues... adirondacker Feb 2014 #60
My collective? I have no collective. MineralMan Feb 2014 #9
THANK YOU Skittles Feb 2014 #61
+1 Fighting the tide with a teaspoon. This is what they live for, it's all they have. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #62
Contrary to the Obama-Dislikers on this site, I'm not an Obama-worshipper, either. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #7
Thanks. I appreciate your comment. MineralMan Feb 2014 #10
You're welcome, and I totally agree with you. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #13
We live in an imperfect society, MineralMan Feb 2014 #15
"GOTV 2014 and Beyond!" EXACTLY. BlueCaliDem Feb 2014 #22
Sure.. sendero Feb 2014 #8
uh huh - four words hfojvt Feb 2014 #12
What? MineralMan Feb 2014 #14
perhaps a little bit of thought would help hfojvt Feb 2014 #20
As I said: Non Sequitur. MineralMan Feb 2014 #21
if you got nothing hfojvt Feb 2014 #38
Actually, Congress had rejected the Catfood Commission. It was dead. MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #63
K & R Iliyah Feb 2014 #18
Thanks! MineralMan Feb 2014 #19
Wait...point to any dictator that meets the expectations of their people. Rex Feb 2014 #23
I can't point to any such dictator. No such dictator exits, MineralMan Feb 2014 #26
"The population never really agrees on much of anything, so we have a political system that pleases Rex Feb 2014 #39
There's the mythological 'benevolent despot.' MineralMan Feb 2014 #40
Exactly. I've been arguing along these lines for some time now Skidmore Feb 2014 #43
They say they want a Revolution... MineralMan Feb 2014 #44
Alright that makes a lot more sense. Rex Feb 2014 #48
Good one! bravenak Feb 2014 #27
I appreciate your reply. MineralMan Feb 2014 #28
Nobody is perfect. bravenak Feb 2014 #31
But I don't want to be MineralMan Feb 2014 #32
Awww, none of us do sweetie. bravenak Feb 2014 #33
I never blame Obama for what gets done in the end, not directly tkmorris Feb 2014 #29
Presidents are always having to guess where Congress MineralMan Feb 2014 #30
we all know this Enrique Feb 2014 #34
Oh, he doesn't HAVE to talk to O'Reilly. MineralMan Feb 2014 #35
....... merrily Feb 2014 #36
so im guessing frwrfpos Feb 2014 #45
You're guessing very incorrectly. MineralMan Feb 2014 #46
that is EXACTLY what Obama has done frwrfpos Feb 2014 #47
My point? Read the OP. MineralMan Feb 2014 #49
POTUS is a symbol One_Life_To_Give Feb 2014 #50
Not really. Presidents play an important role MineralMan Feb 2014 #52
One does not preclude the other One_Life_To_Give Feb 2014 #66
Yeah, I don't "worship" him .. I appreciate President Obama.. Cha Feb 2014 #54
Thanks Mineral Man...my sediments exactly! Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #55
Obama has done more domestically than any modern president sans FDR and LBJ. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #57
The President can't win with some people. bluestate10 Feb 2014 #58
A good read, MinMan. So many, sadly, are convinced in their souls that the Prez could do anything... Hekate Feb 2014 #59
Your mastery of the obvious whatchamacallit Feb 2014 #64
Why, thank you... MineralMan Feb 2014 #65
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