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BrotherIvan

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25. So now the Executive does have power

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 03:04 PM

Feb 2014

As you admit in your post. Cheney, Rummy, BushCo et al, they rammed their agenda through, making enormous changes to the country--with Democrats in the majority for the end of it.

But Democrats are too elegant, too civilized to use the power the people gave them overwhelmingly? And so we watch as Republicans, WHO ARE THE MINORITY IN ONE PART OF CONGRESS, set the agenda? Stomp their feet and get their way in every negotiation? Republicans play dirty, it's totally obvious. And yet our elected Democrats will not stoop to their level for fear of a little dust on their hands?

That's the sales pitch you're going with?

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