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53. When you learn to speak in something other than absolutists terms ...

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 09:51 PM

Feb 2014

when you learn the meaning of "all" ...

when you learn to accurately say what you are attempting to convey ...

then it might be worthwhile to attempt a conversation with you.

Your avowal that "without question does not exist"" is untrue, and you know it. That claim exists on this message board at this very moment. Likewise, your statement that I have called those who believe victims over accused predators "stupid" is categorically untrue as anyone who scrolls through this thread can easily ascertain. I'm not going to re-post the salient issues in my OP again. I have done so repeatedly, and they have been repeatedly ignored or mischaracterized. But the fact that you would make two such patently false and easily disprovable claims is disquieting at best.

And unless you are the one who stated that all claims of abuse must be accepted without question, then I have not insulted you. If I wished to insult you, I would probably just call you a liar based on the numerous statements you have falsely attributed to me, yet I will not do so.

Your need to allege insult or injury makes you appear to be weaker than I suspect that you actually are, and it does nothing to advance your argument.

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In 1692 a group of female children claimed to have been ... molested ... if you will ... [View all] 11 Bravo Feb 2014 OP

Does someone here actually maintain this? Smarmie Doofus Feb 2014 #1

Yes, they do ..... oldhippie Feb 2014 #4

Many, many more than you'd like to believe. last1standing Feb 2014 #6

The only person I have seen calling others idiots is the OP BainsBane Feb 2014 #16

There seems to be a lot of "are you calling me a liar?" by proxy going on here. JVS Feb 2014 #87

No one will maintain that in so many words, not when it's spelled out like that. Silent3 Feb 2014 #91

Two Words: TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #2

Two Words: Brother Buzz Feb 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Feb 2014 #11

+++ Whisp Feb 2014 #12

Yeah, who needs trials and due process when YOU know who is guilty, right? TheSarcastinator Feb 2014 #51

93% chance that Allen is a pedophile filth. Whisp Feb 2014 #60

The really sad part of the McMartin case is most people don't know SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #14

That is true, and it it still one of the most expensive trials in California history. anneboleyn Feb 2014 #35

Another thing most people don't know about that case Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #40

Yes, yes. A child claiming she was sexually molested by her father Squinch Feb 2014 #3

Memories are not reliable cpwm17 Feb 2014 #8

Of course, of course. Let's just go right to the assumption she is lying. Forget the fact that this Squinch Feb 2014 #9

I know little about this case cpwm17 Feb 2014 #23

No one is claiming that children don't lie in these matters. The objection Squinch Feb 2014 #26

Ah. Perhaps I've spotted the problem. Igel Feb 2014 #66

NO!!!!! When someone says they think something is untrue, I think they think it is UNTRUE!!! Squinch Feb 2014 #71

Except they say it took two days of recording and coaching from Mia Farrow CBGLuthier Feb 2014 #61

Yes, yes, of course. You know all about it. She can't possibly be telling the truth. Squinch Feb 2014 #64

"they"? WinkyDink Feb 2014 #81

seven year olds are pretty aware elehhhhna Feb 2014 #25

what about all those priests? collective panic too? lunasun Feb 2014 #86

Bad memories are not always distant Finnmccool Feb 2014 #28

yes.....i specifically kept track of all the various traumas that happened to me BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2014 #44

Dylan was seen by psychologists at the time. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #80

+100 Chorophyll Feb 2014 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author cpwm17 Feb 2014 #7

DU can become an outrage parade LittleBlue Feb 2014 #10

Outrage parade kcr Feb 2014 #19

If Woody Allen were just some guy who lives on the next block, Chorophyll Feb 2014 #63

You'll of course, link us to the the thread if not the post stating that, yes? LanternWaste Feb 2014 #13

No post needed. I can tell you that in many states all it takes is the word of one person SomethingFishy Feb 2014 #17

Just go look at the other thread LittleBlue Feb 2014 #18

I believe there was more to the statement that got them ignored. IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #93

The 21st century and distorting history BainsBane Feb 2014 #15

+++++++++++++++++ Whisp Feb 2014 #20

His/her point was that allegations of children shouldn't be believe without question. Kurska Feb 2014 #21

i would not bother, i just let some posters stay in their little safe bubble where no one questions loli phabay Feb 2014 #22

Safe bubble? BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

no your bubble where all women are innocent and men are liars see how it works loli phabay Feb 2014 #29

Please, be done with me BainsBane Feb 2014 #31

oh i have been done with you, except as performance art. loli phabay Feb 2014 #33

Then stop your sniping BainsBane Feb 2014 #38

lol alert, sorry but you got that wrong, your not that consequential to me. loli phabay Feb 2014 #39

Do you even fucking read the shit you post? 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #34

You want to make a bet? BainsBane Feb 2014 #36

Yeah, I'll take that bet. It would require about 5 seconds to link to a post stating ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #42

To see people defending every single rapist BainsBane Feb 2014 #48

When you learn to speak in something other than absolutists terms ... 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #53

You continue to ignore points BainsBane Feb 2014 #62

You are a truly remarkable piece of work. 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #95

Pay attention BainsBane Feb 2014 #27

Either believe all the allegations all the time about all sexual abuse Kurska Feb 2014 #30

I said nothing of the sort BainsBane Feb 2014 #43

Nor should they be discounted without question, which is a MUCH more common occurrence. Squinch Feb 2014 #32

I assume most memories are reasonably correct. Igel Feb 2014 #68

For legal conviction BainsBane Feb 2014 #70

I want to stand up and cheer for this post! IdaBriggs Feb 2014 #94

Did you take history class in high school? Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #37

Bravo, if you know anything about the witch trials, you will know that the people who were killed Squinch Feb 2014 #41

+1 gollygee Feb 2014 #45

No question whatsoever. And a lot of the accusers seemed to be dealing Squinch Feb 2014 #47

I have no doubt that you wrote your doctoral dissertation on the Salem Witch Trials. 11 Bravo Feb 2014 #49

Yes. You are suggesting that Woody Allen is the victim of a witch trial. I am saying Squinch Feb 2014 #54

" More weight." mikekohr Feb 2014 #46

My sister as an adult - began making allegations of abuse TBA Feb 2014 #50

I'm sorry about your sister's illness but I'm glad she's gotten help. last1standing Feb 2014 #56

Forget it. There is a group here that really wants this to be true. last1standing Feb 2014 #52

You think pretending she wasn't abused makes the abuse disappear? BainsBane Feb 2014 #73

The day care scandals sulphurdunn Feb 2014 #55

Woody Allen is ann--- Feb 2014 #57

Soon Yi is not his daughter cpwm17 Feb 2014 #59

She was the teenage sister of his children BainsBane Feb 2014 #65

Soon-Yi was 27 when they married. tammywammy Feb 2014 #67

Did they not start dating when she was teenager? BainsBane Feb 2014 #69

You posted "marrying the teenage sister" tammywammy Feb 2014 #76

Were some of those photos taken when Soon Yi was 12? BainsBane Feb 2014 #77

That hasn't been stated in any article I've read. n/t tammywammy Feb 2014 #79

He did date actress Stacey Nelkin when she was 17 (he has never commented on this publicly) anneboleyn Feb 2014 #88

Well, given Woody was a father figure to Soon Yi, does it not sound the least bit immoral alp227 Feb 2014 #72

He wasn't a father figure though. tammywammy Feb 2014 #75

Do you think it's okay? BainsBane Feb 2014 #78

Don't put words into my mouth. tammywammy Feb 2014 #83

I didn't put words in your mouth. I asked you questions BainsBane Feb 2014 #84

Sure. tammywammy Feb 2014 #85

Thanks for answering BainsBane Feb 2014 #89

She was an adult, not an adolescent. tammywammy Feb 2014 #90

Not worth the effort JJChambers Feb 2014 #74

Woody Allen, is a pedophile Puzzledtraveller Feb 2014 #82

Reminds me of the South Park episode CFLDem Feb 2014 #92