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loyalsister

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53. A person is as valuable as the number of widgets they can produce

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:19 PM

Feb 2014

People who are too defective to have JOBS as opposed to "jobs" is a mentality that perpetuates discrimination and devaluation of people with disabilities.

Support services in the US = supported living environments, job coaches, etc. They are supports for people who have otherwise been forced to live in institutions.

The ARC is an advocacy group that absolutely does not participate in furthering such biases and devaluation.

http://www.thearc.org/

There are employers who are taking steps to train and hire people with disabilities...

"Through the program, Walgreens partners with local disability service providers to identify and train prospective employees for jobs in retail environments. Upon successful completion of the program, individuals can apply for work at Walgreens or other retailers that rely on a similar skill set."

http://www.disabilityscoop.com/2012/05/21/walgreens-nationwide/15665/

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Jwirr, I thank you with all my heart for bringing this up. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #46

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This. Thank you. Skidmore Jan 2014 #33

We've allowed the Congress to act like toddlers. Forgetting that the Founders set msanthrope Jan 2014 #39

Many of the disabled workers in our area are working in sheltered workshops that pay less than jwirr Jan 2014 #7

+1 freshwest Feb 2014 #47

Thanks for your inside knowledge, jwirr.. nm Cha Feb 2014 #51

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My thoughts? TheMathieu Jan 2014 #9

They're talking about sheltered workshops... SidDithers Jan 2014 #10

Thank you, Sid ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #37

+1 freshwest Feb 2014 #48

so provide the evidence that backs your claims here. looks like you're just speculating. cali Jan 2014 #40

A person is as valuable as the number of widgets they can produce loyalsister Feb 2014 #53

"A person is as valuable as the number of widgets they can produce"... SidDithers Feb 2014 #55

Do you know the people you're demeaning? loyalsister Feb 2014 #56

Absolutely I do... SidDithers Feb 2014 #63

I don't know Pat and I don't know the specifics about employment at Walgreens loyalsister Feb 2014 #65

As employees they might be less valuable... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #66

How do we talk about nondisabled people and employment? loyalsister Feb 2014 #67

Respectfully, no.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #69

wow loyalsister Feb 2014 #70

We aren't really talking here about employees.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #71

"these people" should not be eligible to participate loyalsister Feb 2014 #74

Is that how you feel? Seems a bit extreme to me. nt Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #75

We aren't really talking about "employees" loyalsister Feb 2014 #77

Who can pay someone $10 an hour and get 1/20 of the productivity needed? joeglow3 Feb 2014 #79

There's the problem loyalsister Feb 2014 #80

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I would like to think that joeglow3 Feb 2014 #84

I don't think most people understand what is actually going on loyalsister Feb 2014 #85

And there needs to be a mechanism to report this joeglow3 Feb 2014 #87

yeah that's the same thing loyalsister Feb 2014 #88

So, if we support the program, accept the exceptions. If we don't support it joeglow3 Feb 2014 #89

Eliminate sheltered workshops loyalsister Feb 2014 #90

Thank you. You're exactly correct...nt SidDithers Feb 2014 #73

This Is Amazing... KharmaTrain Feb 2014 #86

I kind of figured that treestar Feb 2014 #78

What the fuck is this with them making a sub-minimum wage? Rex Jan 2014 #11

Disabled workers... TeeYiYi Jan 2014 #14

Lamest excuse ever. Scuba Jan 2014 #18

If they are truly disabled... TeeYiYi Jan 2014 #21

They're unemployable at minimum wage... SidDithers Jan 2014 #22

Source? Scuba Jan 2014 #25

20 years in the packaging industry... SidDithers Jan 2014 #35

Oops!!! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #38

Great source, Sid. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #44

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Good post... SidDithers Feb 2014 #64

The excuses are epic failsauce. Rex Jan 2014 #26

Or hear on Fox "News" Scuba Jan 2014 #28

Pretty much verbatim. Rex Jan 2014 #30

some people on disablity are not able to work and it would be unfair to force them JI7 Feb 2014 #62

I absolutely agree. But when people are able to work, they should be paid a living wage ... Scuba Feb 2014 #72

You are correct. And those that require a one-on-one would never get a 'regular' job. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #49

Most Light House for the Blind employees assemble products for the military. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #60

WTF? That is NOT what I voted for, twice. Scuba Jan 2014 #17

You do realize this is an aspect of federal law and as such cannot be changed with NYC Liberal Jan 2014 #19

No. And I'm not sure how that mitigates the Executive responsibility or lessens his authority. Scuba Jan 2014 #20

From the OP: ProSense Jan 2014 #23

Thanks, I appreciate your bring this part to light ... Scuba Jan 2014 #24

LOL! Whisp Jan 2014 #34

Is this supposed to be a dig at Obama? If so, it is utter bullshit, and not unsurprising. tritsofme Jan 2014 #41

Are these real jobs, or sinecures? Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2014 #42

I know what Sid and jwirr are talking about it and it is a form of therapy in most cases and a way freshwest Feb 2014 #52

Very well said. jwirr Feb 2014 #59

We need to raise the income level that disabled Ilsa Jan 2014 #43

Testify! Timez Squarez Feb 2014 #50

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"If they are employed in training programs' BainsBane Feb 2014 #61

Since disabilities are meted out by The Lord MannyGoldstein Feb 2014 #76

No, ProSense Feb 2014 #81

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