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Gothmog

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27. Here is a good explanation of the Act of Production doctrine
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:55 PM
Feb 2014

Generally the act of production and the concept of testimony by production only applies when (i) when the existence of the document in questions is unknown and (ii) the act of producing the document is in effect testimony as to the accuracy, authenticity and authorship of the document. If the existence of the document in question is a foregone conclusion, then the act of production privilege does not exist. Here is a good explanation of this concept http://www.lrrlaw.com/files/Uploads/Documents/Gilson_ActofProduction_CrimLitNL.pdf

Both Kelly and Septien rely on the Hubble case where Webster Hubble produced 13,000+ pages of documents that the government could not describe adequately to subpoena such documents that were produced pursuant to a grant of immunity. The SCOTUS held that the government did not prove that it was not a forgone conclusion that these document existed. http://sol.lp.findlaw.com/1999/hubbell.html

Here, by way of the contrast, "the Government has not shown that it had any prior knowledge of either the existence or the whereabouts of the 13,120 pages of documents ultimately produced by the respondent." Thus, "[w]hatever the scope of this ‘foregone conclusion’ rationale, the facts of this case plainly fall outside of it."

In short, Hubbell’s act of producing the subpoenaed documents pursuant to an immunity order and of answering the standard custodial questions as to whether he had produced all of the requested documents, fell squarely within the ambit of Kastigar. Accordingly, the Government would have to meet the stringent Kastigar test in order to proceed to trial. This the Government was, by its own admission, unable to do.

I think that the existence of e-mails from a private account used by Kelly and Spetien are foregone conclusions and that the act of production doctrine does not apply. I really doubt that the act of production doctrine will protect these documents in that the government knows that Septien and Kelly had sent e-mails on this topic and there are other e-mails that are in existence.

The next step will be to litigate the extent of this privilege and I doubt that Septien and Kelly will win this issue

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Nice try. nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #1
uh, what? markpkessinger Feb 2014 #2
Stepien's lawyer. Sorry! nt Are_grits_groceries Feb 2014 #5
No problem -- thanks for clarifying! n/t markpkessinger Feb 2014 #6
I am not an attorney but I saw several on my TV last night DURHAM D Feb 2014 #3
That makes sense. n/t markpkessinger Feb 2014 #4
I worked in the legal biz for almost 30 years Blue_In_AK Feb 2014 #7
There has been a subpoena Gothmog Feb 2014 #10
And, girlfriend is in a trick bag ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #18
Don't you remember all the subpoenas refused from the Bush* cronies and even Sarah Palin Bandit Feb 2014 #31
Testimony by Production is a hard argument to win Gothmog Feb 2014 #8
There has been some recent opinions on this issue with respect to off-shore accounts Gothmog Feb 2014 #9
Just playing the "friendly advocate" ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #19
love love LOVE threads with lawyer input Skittles Feb 2014 #11
if my employers asks for information, can i invoke the 5th? spanone Feb 2014 #12
5th is only for criminal matters Gothmog Feb 2014 #14
interesting. spanone Feb 2014 #16
Which was pretty much how HUAC was able to find contempt... malthaussen Feb 2014 #29
The Constitution/Bill of Rights protects you from the government, not private individuals Trekologer Feb 2014 #17
Lets ask Gardner? Historic NY Feb 2014 #13
The 5th amendment does not generally work against the IRS Gothmog Feb 2014 #15
I.e., ... the Required Records Doctrine? eom 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #20
Do you think Christie will try to claim executive privilege or work product? Just curious. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #22
He Will Absolutelty Claim... Laxman Feb 2014 #23
Thanks for that. nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #24
He Is Stalling... Laxman Feb 2014 #21
The danger is to Kelly. She is the defendant and Stepien is her lawyer. JimDandy Feb 2014 #25
I don't think it applies to document production. Lex Feb 2014 #26
Here is a good explanation of the Act of Production doctrine Gothmog Feb 2014 #27
As predicted, the NJ committee is seeking to enforce subpoenas Gothmog Feb 2014 #28
It's worth it.. sendero Feb 2014 #30
Septien's lawyer wants to go to court to litigate these subpoenas Gothmog Feb 2014 #32
Thanks for the update and commentary! n/t markpkessinger Feb 2014 #33
There will be a hearing on privilege issue Gothmog Mar 2014 #34
Thanks for the update! n/t markpkessinger Mar 2014 #35
Does anyone have any links to the briefs filed for tomorrow's hearing? Gothmog Mar 2014 #36
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